• djsoren19 ( djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    5 months ago

    There’s plenty of cocktails that taste like the left, you just have to be willing to leave your toxic masculinity behind and order a drink that’s “for girls.”

    also anyone else think it’s kinda fucked that the drinks “for girls” often seem like they’re trying to hide the taste of alcohol entirely?

    • I’ve heard plenty of people say this to me and no one has been able to back it up. Drinks that attempt to hide the taste of alcohol would be better without alcohol in them in the first place.

      Give me a fucking capri sun over a cocktail any day

      I mean look, I don’t get any positive effects from drinking. Usually I just think “why did I pay for something expensive that tastes bad?” So maybe I’d change my tune if it actually made me feel happy or relaxed or whatever, but from a flavor standpoint alcohol just sucks.

      Even if you liked the taste of alcohol look me dead in the eye and tell me it doesn’t clash flavor wise with basically everything. Bitter citrus flavors work okay and the same with juniper or other herbs like in gin, but seriously why do you even want to drink something that tastes like a tree in the first place?

      Ah yes I want to drink the taste of bread but I prefer it when it has inescapable notes of literal poison and also the taste of the smell of weed (technically hops).

      Ah yes gotta love that this other drink mostly just burns my throat but also has the subtle taste of wood. Gotta get the high end stuff though so that also has flavor notes that taste like a peat bog.

      Here have some lemonade but worse. Don’t like that? how about this other cocktail that is peach lemonade (but also worse).

      Do you know what else we should make worse? Chocolate milk. (Baileys)

      • Sweet citrusy alcohol sounds like what you’d enjoy, I’d recommend mikan, yuzu, or plum wines. They have a bit of a fermented ish taste that you don’t find in their fruit juice variants and they have a mild sweetness.

        I think part of the issue with alcohol is that its all grouped under one tag, but different preparation makes wildly different flavors. Harder alcohols like whiskies and vodkas are moreso what you describe as not liking.

      • fishy ( fishy@lemmy.today ) 
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        Sorry dude, you just haven’t got the pallet for it. Not trying to shame or anything, I disliked alcohol for a long time so I totally get it.

        But now? Holy shit, a good single barrel bourbon is quite literally the best tasting thing I can get on my tongue without going to a Michelin star restaurant. The complexity is off the charts. The flavor is amazing. I wish I could get it without the actual alcohol so I could drink more.

        • Hey now, my pallet is high definition lol; it’s just that I really dislike the taste of ethanol

          I can pick out flavor profiles pretty well, especially since I have family members who enjoy doing so, but having a good sense of taste doesn’t mean I’m going to like everything I taste.

          I’ll admit it is interesting to notice complex combinations and just interesting from the chemistry standpoint that we can create notes of fruits or vanilla just by selecting the right brewing container material. But complexity =/= goodness.

          If you gave me the decision to choose between a well made Michelin Star level dish but with a strong flavor I greatly dislike (like fennel) or choose a basic homemade grilled cheese sandwich, I would probably take the sandwich

      • I don’t think god’s own drink (a negroni) would taste right without the alcohol. The alcohol allows extraction of the wonderful botanical flavours that go into it.

        Why would you want to drink something sweet? I’m big into herbal teas, and bitter greens in meals. Maybe people enjoy different sensations?

      • hemko ( hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        I’ve heard plenty of people say this to me and no one has been able to back it up. Drinks that attempt to hide the taste of alcohol would be better without alcohol in them in the first place.

        As someone who enjoys rum in various forms, I’ll take virgin mojito over alcoholic one any day

    • I dislike sugar in drinks because it can make the hangover worse and I’ve kinda weaned myself off of sweet drinks long time ago (meaning including tea, soda, etc). So generally my most preferred booze is non flavored Soju, possibly with a little lime juice. When cold it kinda just tastes like water with a little lime. There is a flavor but it’s so mild it’s easy to miss. Varies by brand. DAON original doesn’t really even need lime for me.

  • Obviously wine just tastes like grape juice but better, and they get you started on that pretty early. I didn’t enjoy my first taste of beer, but that’s because my dad has never really been a drinker and had a tinny of some shitty lager like tenants at the dinner table once.

  • Furbag ( Furbag@pawb.social ) 
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    5 months ago

    Like most fermented foods, alcohol is absolutely an acquired taste and if you haven’t acquired it yet then I’d say you’re not missing out on much of anything. I’m still not at the point where IPAs and hard liquor taste like anything except poison to me.

  • fonix232 ( fonix232@fedia.io ) 
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    It really depends on the alcohol itself, especially it’s quality.

    Most cheap commercial alcohol tastes like crap, because making them taste good is effort and money. A £20 bottle of whisky or vodka or gin will never taste good, because at that price point, you can’t get the high quality ingredients, can’t afford the purification process and so on.

    Good news is, you can fix clear spirits, to some extent, with a cheap Brita filter. Take a crappy bottle of vodka, pass it through a NEW Brita filter (wash it through with water first to activate the charcoal properly), and BAM, you removed the nail polish remover flavour, and now it tastes much closer to a £50 bottle. Watch out though, brown and flavoured spirits (whisky, rum, gin, etc.) will lose their colour and have their flavours muted by this process.

    And often it’s worth splurging on the fancy bottle of liquor. A bottle of Cirroc or Grey Goose might be £40-60, but you’ll notice the difference immediately. Those are actually pleasant vodkas to drink.

    • I dunno, there are plenty of cheap spirits that taste perfectly fine. The less expensive (but not cheap swill) gins I see in my local markets (Beefeater, Tanqueray, Gordon’s), and the whiskeys or scotches (like Teachers, Jack, etc) are all under the equivalent of 20 pounds, and they’re easy enough to drink.

      Or maybe the UK just has expensive spirits? I know in Australia you can’t get a bottle of literally any spirits for much less than $50-60.

      • fonix232 ( fonix232@fedia.io ) 
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        Sorry, I do not consider anything you listed even remotely near the category of “taste perfectly fine”.

        Drink some quality spirits and you’ll notice the cheapness immediately. Quality alcohol is actually pleasant to drink, even in itself.

        • I’ve had plenty of stuff I consider better than what I listed. I actually prefer peaty scotches and whiskeys and ryes with smoke and bite. I’ve had amazing single barrels. I also like really piney gins.

          But my point about the ones I mentioned were that they’re all smooth, inoffensive, and miles away from the rotgut shit I was drinking in my college days. Definitely does not taste like “crap” by any sane measure (ok except maybe the Jack. I can’t vouch for that because I haven’t actually had it in awhile and I couldn’t remember any of the non-Japanese stuff that my local market has).

          • fonix232 ( fonix232@fedia.io ) 
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            I prefer smooth Islay or Highland whiskys that aren’t smokey or peaty, that already eliminates a number of them for me. But bringing commercial low grade drinks into the drinkscussion and claiming they’re “smooth” is just plain disingenuous. They’re not smooth. Far from it.

            The only drinkable Jack is Gentlemen’s Jack, or the single barrel select, but even those are just pish for mixing cocktails. Tanqueray is similarly a gin I’d never drink in a “pure” cocktail (G+T and kinds, where the focus is on the gin flavour), but it’s fine for, say, a Long Island.

  • tomenzgg ( tomenzgg@midwest.social ) 
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    5 months ago

    Sherry paired with a cheesecake is absolutely divine.

    I remember having a lot of fun making ice cream floats with anisette, too (though it’s much harder to strike the right balance between the two just right).

  • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    I love the taste of beer, and a bunch of other drinks (Gin & Tonic, variety of wines, vodka drinks including martinis and sweet drinks, etc).

    But I also don’t care for seafood at all, while it seems most people love it.

    You should use a smaller brush when painting.