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LadyButterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone ) M to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 6 months ago
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  • TheFogan ( TheFogan@programming.dev ) 
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    on a job interview in IT, an interviewer asked me if I understood the difference between TCP and UDP. After giving the best technical explanation I could, I ended with

    I could tell you a UDP joke, but I’m not sure if you’d get it.

    He said go ahead

    I paused, that was it.

    Kind of awkward.

    I didn’t get the job.

    • jol ( jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Nothing boosts your impression on people like making them feel stupid. RIP

      • captcha ( captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ) 
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        I wouldn’t expect this joke to make someone feel stupid if they know what UDP is, so it feels like it was a safe bet

        • Brave Little Hitachi Wand ( yakko@feddit.uk ) 
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          Interviewing is (ideally) quite a structured type of conversation, when is a job interview. A lot of people have to lock in pretty hard to deal with how unnatural it is, and they might not have the spare bandwidth to catch a joke.

          Especially not someone from HR, they’re fucking troglodytes.

          • TheBrideWoreCrimson ( TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz ) 
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            I completely agree with your first paragraph.
            But TheFogan was probably not explaining UDP to an HR person in this scenario.

          • MonkderVierte ( MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ) 
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            • Brave Little Hitachi Wand ( yakko@feddit.uk ) 
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              Well sure, but the context for my comment was the unnatural-ness of a structured job interview. If you’re not just pantsing it, such interviews follow a script, and that’s not how we normally talk to each other.

      • hessenjunge ( hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        Yeah, but that’s not what this was.

        Interviewer asked about thing then does not get joke about most basic property of thing. Either the interviewer is incredibly incompetent or incapable of getting a joke.

        It’s a weird situation even for a job interview. (& I’ve been on job interviews that can only be described as tribunals with 8 judges grilling you simultaneously.)

        • TheFogan ( TheFogan@programming.dev ) 
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          I mean I think he got it after a few seconds, he did laugh, and then comment how everything was so serious before then and it took him a bit to get it. I don’t think that was why I didn’t get the job.

        • jol ( jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          Humour is not universal, and cracking jokes in an interview is high risk no reward. I’ve rejected candidates that made inappropriate jokes before. Intentions don’t really matter, there’s 10 more candidates.

          • hessenjunge ( hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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            Why do you keep moving the goal posts? We’re not talking about inappropriate jokes or someone being an ass during an interview. Honestly, if an interviewer wastes my time like this I’m ending the interview. Good luck finding just one more guy matching my talents.

            • jol ( jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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              I didn’t move to goal post at all. In any interaction, you need to gauge the vibe before moving to the next level. Workplace humour is sensitive, and you should drop a joke you’re not confortable not landing.

          • Nollij ( Nollij@sopuli.xyz ) 
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            Interviews are also (if not primarily) a measure of cultural fit. Making tasteful jokes is absolutely appropriate, but depends on the culture. I wouldn’t want to work at a place that is too uptight for some humor.

            The UDP joke isn’t one that I’d probably use, but doesn’t feel out of place in the context of detailing the protocol.

      • RamenJunkie ( RamenJunkie@midwest.social ) 
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        I mean, you would think most people would be used to that feeling by now.

    • Alfredolin ( Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      This is fucking funny.

    • Girl Named ZERO (she/her) ( guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip ) 
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      Unfortunately I don’t know enough about udp to get it, is it that you dumped the information before like, asking about it?

      • Baguette ( Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Tcp and udp are to sum it up, internet messaging protocols. UDP specifically is when you send a message over without guaranteeing your message was received. TCP on the otherhand is more like a handshake where you send a message and expect a response back.

        The joke is basically UDP=I dont know if you would get it

      • TheFogan ( TheFogan@programming.dev ) 
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        Yeah I believe i remember roughly the explanation I gave to the interviewer.

        TCP basically takes the time to confirm every detail actually was recieved, used in almost all situations in networking where accuracy is critical.

        UDP is basically when speed is the more important than everything being perfect, (we were on a zoom call), Like say this video call, if the background gets blurry or a few frames drop or even my face distorts for a few seconds, that would be less of an inconvenience to us than if the network took the time and made sure to transmit every frame exactly as the camera picks it up, at the cost of an extra 10 seconds of lag in the call.

      • MonkderVierte ( MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ) 
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        There’s pretty basic UDP, that sends without confirming receiving. And instead of fixing it, they just slapped another protocol, TCP, on top of it.

        With only UDP, you don’t know, if you get it.

    • zod000 ( zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I asked someone this same question in an interview, not so much that it was important, but to see if they had general basic networking knowledge like they claimed to on their resume. Their highly confident explanation was “TCP is for sending, UDP is for receiving” They did not get the job, though not just because of that.

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    • Tyrq ( Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Well, they are there to learn after all, he didn’t assume his students knew, and asked if they did. One guy in the class knew. Seems like it’s working itself out, and he just needs to keep that one loaded for later in the semester when people are primed to get it.

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  • dumnezero ( dumnezero@piefed.social ) 
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    Maybe they just wanted to deny the positive feedback to him.

  • neuracnu ( neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    The only acceptable response is “I heard he was good at making bitches wet.”

  • Goun ( Goun@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Now I’m hungry

    • HumanOnEarth ( HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I just drooled all over myself and I have no idea why

  • Saapas ( Saapas@piefed.zip ) 
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    I’ve heard that same joke a million times. It’s what I’d expect to find at the top of a Reddit thread.

    It’s a witty joke but a common one, so wouldn’t chuckle tbh

    • FiskFisk33 ( FiskFisk33@startrek.website ) 
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      Should have accompanied the jokes with treats

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    The thing is it is highly doubtful that Pavlov ever used a bell. Also the experiments were no fun for the dogs.

    He redirected the animals’ digestive fluids outside the body, where they could be measured.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning#procedures

    https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2022/12/the-shocking-and-gruesome-truth-about-pavlovs-dogs-and-how-the-results-are-commonly-misinterpreted/

    • captcha ( captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ) 
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      the experiments were no fun for the dogs

      I would really expect most experiments to be no fun for animals that are experimented on

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        Since Pavlow is so famous you see often the dogs depicted as cute and someone ringing a bell. Not as fixated pepsin machines. At least in the past that was my mental image. Might be a me problem.

        • captcha ( captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ) 
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          No, you’re right about the images, it’s marketing as usual, but I never thought about this

  • A_Chilean_Cyborg ( A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ) 
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    good pun

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    For the life of me I can’t remember how we got to the subject, but once we were talking about attaching speakers to a dog and I called it “Dolby Surround Hound.” I was very proud of that one and it went completely unacknowledged.

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      I have no qualms stopping the conversation and repeating my joke. Witness my pun!!

    • OozingPositron ( OozingPositron@feddit.cl ) 
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      Dogby.

    • NotSafeForWorld ( NotSafeForWorld@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Maybe because it already exists. I believe the company is called SoundHound or something

      /s

  • Nangijala ( Nangijala@feddit.dk ) 
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    Should’ve started drooling right after.

  • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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    It’s totally overrated compared to Eton Mess tbh

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    I am ignorant and unwitty - I don’t get it. I thought pavlov was a game.

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