In the aggregate, as many as 295,000 more people may have left the U.S. than immigrated there in 2025, according to one study
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-leaving-citizenship-emigration-trump-b2975395.html
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Would if I could.
You can probably find a job as an English teacher in East Asia
Not if I want to keep my kids.
Same. My wife wouldn’t come. She wants to stay.
Find a new wife. Fortunately there’s plenty abroad.
I’m quite fond of her and the kids though.
You can be fond of more than one
Stay frosty out there. Legal loopholes and policy exceptions abound. ☝🏼
Same. Spouse and I have discussed it. Light research shows it being too expensive for us. Kids don’t want it either. Sigh.
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Amazing to assume Social Security will still be a thing…
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I’m left of left and I don’t expect there to be a USA in 20 years, let alone when we’re 70.
Ya’ll getting balkanised.
What?
Being pessimistic is now conservative? GTFOH
It’s math. Each new generation funds the previous one. If people are living longer and the birthrates are declining there wont be enough funds to replenish whats being taken out.
If we end up getting SS then great, but expecting it is not smart financial planning
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There isn’t any chance the Nazis running the US let Social Security survive.
You may want to give yourselves an escape route before then. Things are likely to get dangerous before midterms. Once 2027 rolls around you may not be able to leave. At least, not legally and with all your stuff.
I really cannot imagine the Republicans losing power at this point. Not without an ammount of violence that cascades part of the power grid. People have been shouting coup for a year. Even if the dems won there’s AIPAC problem and Vance and Thiel waiting to get their dark enlightenment.
So yeah, run while you can. This is The Fall of Rome
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Remember the Berlin Wall was more to keep people in, than the keep the west out.
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No. The camps are bad because he wants people to voluntarily deport themselves.
I want to sell my citizenship and think it is anti-capitalism (read: terrorists, apparently) that we cannot do so. The going rate was set at $1M by POTUS.
Wow, another win for the pedo party. Over a quarter of a million less people to deport, imprison, and eventually kill.
Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn’t even make sense.
I’m mid-application for moving down there.
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Brain gain
pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.
Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.
Wut. Everything else I’ve read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.
anyone have more info on these fees “dropping steeply”?
I wonder where they are going to since it is famous that only the Americas really accept immigrants.
I think this map is a little dishonest and should be titled “What Offers Citzenship From Birth - Land or Blood?” I live in a country where I can absolutely naturalize after 5 years. I was not born here and my parents are not from here. This is true of many countries if you make the effort to get a work visa and show you want to be part of their society/culture.
Like the rest of the world want’s them. So first you do nothing about your dead country, and you immigrate in another country.
Like WW2 people fleeing Europe, same with USA now.My Jewish family fled Europe during the pogroms of Russia.
Their family that stayed died in the camps. Fuck you.
The rest of the world has an obligation to accept refuges and use international pressure against other States that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I didn’t say anything about Jewish people, I don’t understand how I did offend you. Have a nice day!
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You could read the article to find out. The link is right there at the top of the page.
Where?
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my bad ☝🏼😶
First blue text from the top
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