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cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol )  to Linux@programming.dev · 5 months ago

Boot-Time Wizard Aims To Help Reduce Linux Boot Times

www.phoronix.com

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Boot-Time Wizard Aims To Help Reduce Linux Boot Times

www.phoronix.com

cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol )  to Linux@programming.dev · 5 months ago
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  • cecilkorik ( cecilkorik@piefed.ca ) 
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    I boot off an SSD and besides intentional delays like waiting to see if I want to pick a different kernel, it only takes a handful of seconds. I don’t really see the issue, but it’s a good cause and best of luck I guess.

    • testaccount372920 ( testaccount372920@piefed.zip ) 
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      That’s basically what the article states. Most users have fast enough systems to not bother with this tool, but embedded systems and other slow hardware could benefit from this. I imagine it’s mostly useful for engineers (and smart home hobbyists) to optimize processes or product lines.

    • HelloRoot ( HelloRoot@lemy.lol ) 
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      5 seconds? How?

      My grub is set to 2sec.

      From pressing the power on button to an open start menu (I measure like this because the DE is still unusable for a good 5s after it becomes visible) it takes me about 36 seconds.

      I recently tried hibernation thinking it would speed things up, but it takes about 2 minutes… huge RAM bad I guess.

      (And yes, windows on the same hardware is way faster at about 17s, because it does some magic idk about)

      • redjard ( Redjard@reddthat.com ) 
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        Hibernation shouldn’t take long unless you actually have a lot in ram. It won’t write empty ram, it’s really more like swapping out all pages.

        Maybe your ssd is just slow? Some motherboards also take their sweet time.

      • Zink ( Zink@programming.dev ) 
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        Windows has had a “fast startup” thing for a while where it hibernates just some parts of the OS.

        I used to always disable it because I’ve run into situations where having it off prevented issues that appeared with it on.

        Fortunately I don’t have to use any Windows machines on a regular basis now, so it doesn’t matter.

      • caseyweederman ( caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Mine’s set to 0 unless I’m holding shift

  • unexposedhazard ( unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    All my boot time comes from LUKS decryption…

    • peterhorvath ( peterhorvath@mastodon.de ) 
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      @unexposedhazard @cm0002 Das sollte nicht so sein, symmetrische Ciphers sind schnell

      • unexposedhazard ( unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        So wie ichs verstehe ist Argon2 absichtlich “langsam” um bruteforce Angriffe zu erschweren. Auf meinem 5800X3D brauchts nur ~2 Sekunden aber auf nem Thinkpad mit deutlich weniger compute sind das eher so 10 Sekunden.

      • redjard ( Redjard@reddthat.com ) 
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        Maybe they’re counting time to type in a password. That’s what it comes down to for me, in my boottime graph. Hugely bloated initramfs times dominating everything cause I took human timescales to input 60 characters.

      • beutlin ( beutlin@feddit.org ) 
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        Doch, genau so sollte das sein. Symmetrische Ciphers sind schnell, richtig, aber sie sind natürlich langsamer als “gar nichts”. Dementsprechend schon sinnvoll, dass das die Bootzeit verlängert.

        Und dann natürlich auch immer eine Frage des Setups. Encrypted root+boot brauchen dann bspw bereits im Grub support für die Verschlüsselung und Grub nimmt sich dafür tendenziell mehr Zeit.

  • LaMouette ( LaMouette@jlai.lu ) 
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    Bazzite take a very long time to load on a 16gb ram core i7 laptop i have. Something like 30s at least. So I’d take any advice to improve that

    • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      The way I improved it was by remembering that 30 seconds isn’t actually a long time at all

      • KaRunChiy ( KaRunChiy@fedia.io ) 
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        People downvote but i remember when my pc would take 5 to 10 minutes to boot. 30 seconds isn’t very long, just turn it on, walk to another room, and it’s on by the time you’ve turned around and came back

      • LaMouette ( LaMouette@jlai.lu ) 
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        Ok I fully understand your point of view but I have small people living with me telling me hurtful things like that windows is better because it starts faster (then proceed to play minecraft without any issue on linux)

        • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          I only use it on my work laptop, but Windows 11 is def slower to start up for me than Bazzite

  • gwl [he/him] ( gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Your boot time is slow?

    Mine goes from cold off to login screen in 5 seconds

  • KaRunChiy ( KaRunChiy@fedia.io ) 
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    It takes my system 3 seconds to go from POST to a gui login, so uuhhh, what boot times

  • megopie ( megopie@beehaw.org ) 
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    in an era where many systems are always-on and suspend/resume working more reliably these days

    … do people not turn their computers off when they’re done using them?

    • cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol ) OP
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      I sure don’t, my current record is 6 years (On Windows no less lmao)

      • xthexder ( xthexder@l.sw0.com ) 
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        I guess you must have Windows Update turned off, because I feel like I was being forced to restart on a weekly basis before finally moving to linux.
        I don’t restart unless I’m installing a kernel update or something else that requires it, it’s nice never having to come back to “Let’s finish setting up yyour PC” or whatever “Please use OneDrive” ad they’ve put in.

        • cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol ) OP
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          Yea I stop all updates, it’s kept me from having to fight Copilot, OneDrive, edge reinstalling and all the other shit MS shoves in

      • yuri ( yuri@pawb.social ) 
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        xp or 7?

        • cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol ) OP
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          10 actually lol

          • yuri ( yuri@pawb.social ) 
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            you lucky duck

    • keisatsu ( keisatsu@infosec.pub ) 
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      …“done”?

      • megopie ( megopie@beehaw.org ) 
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        Sleep is important

    • Swedneck ( Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      only reason i turn my computer off is power draw and noise

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