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I wanted to take a moment and talk about Linux UX because, let’s face it… it sucks.
Actually, it’s worse than that. Much of Linux’s UX is technically correct and that makes it objectively wrong.
No. I don’t want Linux to be more Windows-like. But I do want the most common Linux desktops to behave in a way that PC-literate folks can wrap their mind around — and do so from minute zero
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I really dislike dumb and entitled takes like this. First he somehow complains about both GNOME and KDE when literally none of the complaint apply to KDE, second switching between different operating systems will break the way you are doing things anyway, and third - who cares.
It didn’t even apply to GNOME. Samba servers just show up in the network section of nautilus.
Everything in the article seems misplaced or mispoken. GNOME Nautilus, click on network, if a server exists it shows up, you click it and login to the share (same as Windows except you don’t have to assign a drive letter), and options asks of you want to remember user name and password. Done. Or you type smb://host/share.
Seems easier than Windows non GUI of: net use D: \host\share /USER:username password.
And when I was new to Linux GNOME Disks just made perfect sense to me. Select a drive, format it, partition it, add a relevant filesystem.
The whole article is a guy complaint it doesn’t work like he thinks it should because he knew windows way first.
Thats kind of his point though.
New users, are coming from Windows. They know “the windows way”.
Hell I had to dump all my mapped network shares on my laptop because when I wasn’t at home, the whole thing just stalls out constantly, looking for them, instead of just saying “Oh, its not there” and moving on, or just ignoring it until I actively click on it.
What is this guy on about? Windows has TWO places for settings and neither are to parity of each other. Linux does not have that. Gnome and KDE actually provide really nice settings.
I’m on Manjaro, and it actually does have two places for settings. The KDE settings menu is usually the place to go, but Manjaro’s settings menu is where you can do a few obscure things like installing different kernel versions.
This might just be a Manjaro thing though as I haven’t seen this on other distros, and Control Panel does way more than it should really on Windows with how long the Settings app has been around.
At least on Linux if you dont want it that way you can remove it, depending on the distro. Control Panel and Settings are there seemingly forever in Windows.
When on God’s green earth would someone want to delete the partition table and not immediately create a new partition?
counterpoint: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Btrfs#Partitionless_Btrfs_disk
Btrfs can occupy an entire data storage device, replacing the MBR or GPT partitioning schemes,
Or you intend to
ddan image onto it. Or you intend to turn the entire disk over to a VM and want to partition it from inside the VM. I think there might also be a (rare and esoteric) use case involving PostgreSQL.
I don’t have a problem with his take other than saying people who disagree with him are “objectively wrong”. There’s nothing objective about it, and feel like this is the new “literally” where its used improperly so often that it just becomes meaningless.
Imitating the Windows UI makes things easier and more intuitive for people switching from Windows, which, let’s face it, is virtually everyone.
But its not necessarily the way everyone should be doing it, because the Windows way is sometimes not the best way.
There are lots of DEs with their own opinionated way of doing things and none of them are “wrong”.
I really like this take on it: https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/actions/github-actions/#familiarity-instead-of-compatibility
For all of these reasons, Forgejo Actions strives for familiarity instead of compatibility. We want users of GitHub actions to feel familiar using Forgejo Actions, even if there are some small changes here and there. Workflows should work with some minimal changes.
I think the same thing applies to Linux DE’s. Linux is not and never will be a 1 for 1 to windows workflows. If we chase perfect compatibility, we will be perpetually behind on a wild goose chase.
But, doing things like what KDE does, where most of the common keyboard shortcuts are the same, and things like virtual desktops allow for similar workflows with very little adaptation, is very reasonable.
Actually think his points are extremely valid and the retorts in this thread just proves his point even further tbh
I have run into weird issues when installing GTK apps in KDE, it’s annoying but I did enough research to know that if you use KDE you should avoid GTK apps.
