• CompactFlax ( CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    4 months ago

    Yes, you’re alone in defending a technology that after a century of intensifying development has 40% efficiency (whereas the tech you’re moaning about has 20 years of intense development and has already hit over 80%), consumes a limited, nonrenewable resource, and has significant responsibility for potentially human-extinction-causing climate change.

    You feckless idiot!

  • this is so Japanese…

    almost every time i watch Japanese news program, some capitalist elderly straight male (probably also predator) is complaining about social progress and using emotional appeals like “it’s sad that traditional men aren’t valued anymore…”

    when that isn’t even true in any empirical sense!

    fucking get off the planet, comb-over!

  • bluGill ( bluGill@fedia.io ) 
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    I love an ICE engine myself. Which is why my I have a shed full of antiques that I run once every few months on a nice day. My daily driver is electric though, I wouldn’t risk a car I love on the road. (My daily driver is an ebike but for bad weather and long trips I have an electric car)

    • Reading his complaint I was thinking, combustion engines will still be around, after all I see people driving steam powered antique autos almost every summer. But that doesn’t mean we should stay dependent on old, damaging tech for basic tasks

    • PerogiBoi ( PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ) 
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      ICE still makes the most sense for bike form factors. My motorcycle gets almost 400km range on 17L of petrol. My electric dirtbike gets 60km (and full sized electric motorcycles get around 150km).

      Batteries in cars truly makes the most sense right now. All my cars have large battery packs (despite them not being full ev). I can’t justify a full ICE car when hybrids are cheaper to run and more efficient. If I could afford an EV, I’d swap my plugin hybrid immediately.

        • PerogiBoi ( PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ) 
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          I would reread the comment you’re replying to. No one is claiming to sit on a bike for 4 hours straight.

          Many motorcyclists use their bikes for road trips and joyrides. It’s very common to ride for 1.5-2.5 hours non stop between breaks to stretch ones legs.

          Road trips are out of the question on an electric motorcycle even if you have a bike that supports fast charging and you live in an area with many fast chargers. With an electric car, you can chill inside a climate controlled cabin while it takes 20ish minutes to charge. There is no such luxury on a bike. Sustained highway speeds drain the battery as there is no gearing. You would need to stop for a 20-30 minute recharge every hour, which is not feasible.

          Also if you’re travelling over 60km/h, wind noise drowns out engine noise. And engine noise on modern motorcycles is very quiet. You might be imagining Harley Davidson bikes with the exhaust baffles drilled out and then applying that to all motorcycles.

          • SaveTheTuaHawk ( SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ) 
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            The USA is not the world. Most of the world rides motorcycles to commute daily in short rides.

            Most Zero models have over 100 miles of range highway, at real highway speeds. So no, you do not need to charge every hour. Most chargers are within…horrors…WALKING DISTANCE of a nice cafe. Harley-Davidson’s best selling ICE bike only got 90 miles of range.

            • PerogiBoi ( PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ) 
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              I’m talking about Canada actually. Most Zero models have up to ~100 miles in mixed usage riding which is city driving from 40-80km/h in short bursts with occasional bouts of highway at 100km/h. Real life usage always has much less range.

              Since commuting on a bike is only feasible for most of North America for only a few months per year, motorcycles in North America are joyride vehicles. Also just for your information, there are many models of motorcycle made by Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, etc. None of them are Harley so I don’t understand what your point is about a low range Harley. Perhaps you misread my comment.

              There’s no valid argument in your case. I love EVs. I love my electric dirtbike. I wanted to get an electric motorcycle. The reality is that range and gearing make electric motorcycles unfeasible for the overwhelming majority of North American use cases. Try and be less snarky when arguing about things you have no direct life experience with.

            • PerogiBoi ( PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ) 
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              You’ve clearly never ridden a bike so it’s silly for you to try and debate the experience with me. I suggest you actually know something about the things you argue about with strangers online. This conversation is over.

    • Grandson of the guy who turned it into a car company, and great grandson of the guy who founded the company.

      But also worth pointing out that a lot of Japanese companies maintain the family lineage of CEOs through adult adoption, where the person identified as the heir apparent literally changes their last name and gets adopted into the founding family. I think Suzuki has done it 3 or 4 times, where the President of the company is named Suzuki but is not a blood relative, and is the adopted son of the previous President.

  • Takashiro ( Takashiro@lemmy.today ) 
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    Combustion cars don’t need defending, they need phasing out.

    And it is simply dumb to insist on combustion cars at this point. Toyota had some kind of advantage with hybrids way back, then they went and squandered a bunch of money and time on hydrogen which is also dumb, maybe even dumber…

  • SaveTheTuaHawk ( SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Wow. Typical Lemmy opinions about cars.

    Toyoda has always developed the most efficient cars in the industry, and brought the first hybrid to market in 1997.

    EVs are selling better, but not better than ICE. Not even close. Akio Toyoda is not Elon Musk, his company needs to make money selling cars, not flimsy unreliable EVs running mostly on bullshit.

    Big picture, Akio Toyoda will be far greener than Elon Musk, and Tesla won’t be making cars in two years.

    • Zorg ( Zorg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Which EVs are “flimsy” and unreliable?
      Yeah Tesla’s might be put together poorly, but there are so many good options nowadays. Combustion engines are vastly more complicated than electric motors, batteries do complicate things a bit, but industry has gotten phenomenally good at packaging li-ion batteries, or newer chemistries.