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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 months ago

Opensource AI Must Win

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Opensource AI Must Win

opensourceaimustwin.com

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 months ago
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Civilizational intelligence infrastructure must remain free to study, build, deploy, and run, not rented from closed institutions.
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  • Sims ( Sims@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Nice initiative, but F**K I’m tired of Mericans that think that the “Merica” dump is the hub of the world, and have to specifically pull out that nation as if something special. Merica is NOT the world - get it into your propagandized minds !

    "America should not fall behind on the freedom to run, inspect, modify, benchmark, teach, and preserve intelligence infrastructure. The practical posture is American capacity with global open standards. ".

    Merican self-grandization/exceptionalism is annoying as F… To local Merican activists: "Broaden your effing scope to include the huge world out there beyond insignificant ‘Merica’, or F’ off with your local problems/activism.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      It’s kind of funny how China is actually doing these things right now while Americans are talking it up. I think what we’ll see in practice will be this manifesto applied to China.

  • baduhai ( baduhai@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    I like the sentiment, could have done without the last paragraph.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      Yeah, I guess it is targeted to US techbro audience.

  • VoxAliorum ( VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I agree. And one stop further: commercial models (not commercial model hosting) have to largely die due to copyright violations. Only chance for that is that the EU makes a move with the president after Trump.

    You cannot really ban the violating models that exist nowadays, but you can decide that these models themself cannot be commercialized due to their violations.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      yeah I think that would be a very good outcome

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    Emule, HugstonOne, Hugston.com, Huggingface, Modelscope, Github, Codeberg, fmhy.net (take note) …

  • ComradePenguin ( ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml ) 
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    It is already winning thanks to Chinese companies. The US frontier models are better, but not by much. They are also a bad deal. I’d rather have 10-20x usage of a almost as good model, that makes it possible for me to actually get shit done.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      And now everybody saw how the US can just cut access to their model at any time too.

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        Yep, not a good look

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    No. AI must lose.

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    I’m not as up to date (like at all lol) with specifically open source ai. Is it any better then corporate ai? Including data center-like resources use? or otherwise?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      Yes, you can run Qwen 3.6 27b on your laptop and have it do useful work, and it’s more capable than frontier models from a year ago or so. https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.6-27b

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      Don’t know exactly how it compares but I’ve measured the electricity increase while running it, something you can run on one graphics card is around the same as a resource intensive video game.

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