• qaeta ( qaeta@lemmy.ca ) 
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        3 months ago

        Truth is, it was never about age. It was about asset accumulation. The more you had to protect, the more right-wing you got, generally speaking. There are obviously exceptions.

        They fucked everything for younger generations so hard now though that we AREN’T able to accumulate assets to the degree where that shift happens in large numbers anymore. So we are staying left-wing for the most part. Unfortunately they seem to have realized their error and decided to just brainwash the really young gens with AI slop brainrot instead.

      • therealdries ( therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        A racialised socio-economic buffer in-between liberal elites and the underclasses was the whole point of the creation of the (so-called) “middle class” through Keynesian economics - that’s really what the “New Deal” (in the US) and Apartheid-era economic policies in South Africa was all about. By giving a relatively small (and white) section of the working class a small taste of private property they’d become invested in the colonialist liberal economic order, and it was pretty successful too - it’s the reason why boomers are the way they are.

        However, now that Keynesian liberalism has inevitably degraded into neoliberalism (which is really an inevitable process) that pretend-social contract is essentially in tatters - so I guess all bets are off.

      • Zink ( Zink@programming.dev ) 
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        I can’t help but wonder if that actually used to be true, but it was because of more accumulated lead exposure over time rather than aging over time.

        I’m an old white guy born into conservative religious america, and my entire adult life has been spent sliding to the left as I observe the left being correct and giving a shit about people while the right continues to be disingenuous and destructive and greedy.

      • Malyca ( Malyca@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Getting older includes losing your field of fucks to give. If you’ve spent your life bullying and celebrating your ignorance like them, you’ll become more conservative. If your views and your morals have stayed somewhat consistent and you’ve been generous, courteous and compassionate, those values will persist your lack of fucks to give, often pushing you further left rather than right.

      • Hanrahan ( hanrahan@slrpnk.net ) 
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        very much so, now 61 and way over here on the left from about slightly right of center as a 19yr old voter. The more you see, the more you understand the need for the guillotine

        That aside, it’s Caro soooo…

  • therealdries ( therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Stop treating people like dirt and you’ll never have to worry about evil socialism (boo! hiss!) ever again… but, fortunately for the left, that is completely incomprehensible to anybody suffering from liberal brain-rot.

  • GhostFace ( GhostFace@lemmy.today ) 
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    I’m just waiting for them to start a real war and draft everyone under 25-30. I know boomers have been a big issue for a long time but I doubt millennials or gen x care if they purge us and force us back into line.

  • idk (she/her) ( Tiger_Man_@szmer.info ) 
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    but how many of them supports actual socialism/communism rather that what they were told socialism/communism is?

    it might be a similar situation to that with poles aged 40+ who were hurt by communism so they declare to support capitalism but when you actually ask them about capitalost ideas the support drops by a lot

    • frigge ( frigge@lemmy.ml ) 
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      when confronted with details without mentioning the scary words socialism or communism most people are overwhelmingly in favour of it. That’s why the constant strawmen based fighting between tankies and liberals is so tiring. Instead of talking about facts and discussing the pros and cons of how to achieve the shared goals they constantly throw shit at each other

    • AlteredEgo ( AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml ) 
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      There is a big question about “who gets power” and people don’t know and we don’t have answers. Right now plutocrats own and control the news and social media, control the government and the courts and the legislation through lobbying and control all the economic power in the world.

      Ask communists on lemmy and they’ll endlessly wax about theory but how do we, on a practical level, assert power over all that? They are honestly stuck in the 1940s and instead want to “rehabilitate Stalin” lol. There is a point to be made that we need a state to use violence against the capitalist power structures. But the old recipe of the great purge, millions of deaths and a chilling effect had already failed. The USSR failed even before the cold war. We lack ideological alternatives and oldschool communists are stuck in reactionary thinking just like conservatives.

      Like news media should have some kind of public utility endowment and be democratically run by the workers their electing their own bosses. Social media needs to be properly moderated with lots of paid moderators. Lobbying and advertising needs to be banned largely. So once people are actually well informed and not terrorized daily, then we can have a little democracy again.

      But we also need better democratic and voting system in themselves. We should have an independent “economent” government part that we control through internet. Like a big bank where you can vote for what gets funded. Where you can fund to raise or lower prices in this or that or push for more housing etc.

      But we’re not just completely behind in power but also have no good worked out ideas to implement anything better. The smartest people should be working on this but instead are brainwashed and hired by the richest people.

      Anyway, sorry for the long rant lol. Meme’s like OP piss me off. You’re right, people are not really becoming more socialist. Besides that, we also have a massive conservative propagandist effort aimed at young people on youtube and social media. The youth now won’t be better than the boomers.