The Fedora Council has paused the Community Initiatives process, stating that the current framework no longer effectively supports identifying, discussing, and advancing major strategic efforts.
Importantly, already approved Community Initiatives will continue.
Going forward, the Fedora Council says it wants to develop a new mechanism for setting strategic direction in a more open and transparent way, with stronger community involvement earlier in the process.
Context: Fedora’s AI Developer Desktop Was Approved, Then Blocked. Here’s Why. & Heavy Community Backlash Blocks Fedora’s AI Developer Desktop Initiative
Seems like it is primarily a technical backlash about having to support another kernel branch for stability with proprietary nvidia drivers. A bit of pushback on AI branding. But also
Part of what made this blow up the way it did was a communications gap. Fabio Valentini of the FESCo noted that he only became aware the proposal was being voted on after stumbling across the council meeting on Matrix accidentally.
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I mean you can try it. I’ve used it briefly in the past but moved on from it because it’s a damn frustratingly opinionated distro with a community that gives the GNOME user/dev base a run for their money.
It works well enough. some things you really got to play with to get working on it. If you’re on Nvidia I’d just save yourself the headache and skip it. If you want a distro you can install and just completely forget about and just use flatpaks or whatever, yeah it’s good.
If you’re on Nvidia I’d just save yourself the headache and skip it
Just to offer a counter balance, my gaming desktop with Nvidia is running Fedora. Other than an weird issue with the mouse cursor - which was easily fixed - it has been working flawlessly.
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They literally didn’t want the AI spin
If you don’t want the AI features don’t use them
I do want a good file system embedding plugin for semantic search, image categorization and content recognition, better OCR, etc. I can run all those locally for less energy than playing a video game and wasting zero water, but a good OS integration would be game changer.
There are definitely things to say against AI, but the anti-AI crowd can sometimes be incredibly short sighted and assholishly militant.
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There are definitely things to say against AI, but the anti-AI crowd can sometimes be incredibly short sighted and assholishly militant.
I’d both-sides this except that one side has to constantly fix the other side’s mass-produced garbage-on-demand while their management continues to shrink the resources and time available to do both that and their own job.
Sure, you can responsibly use AI, and creating an environment for that would generally be a good thing. That ignores the reality of the world we live in though, and it’s easy to understand why people are exhausted over the artificial hype and want their spaces to remain untainted by it.
Part of the point is all about how a healthy community discusses and decides upon proposals. This effort to ram a deeply disdained, extractive capitalist creation into a Fedora Atomic Desktop version that basically violated some ethical choices that Fedora makes…Is part of the reason why it thankfully failed. It didn’t help that the people who held the vote actively avoided having a discussion involving the community, that is a Microslop tactic. Not an open source project’s tactic, it tells me a lot about the ethical soundness of what they were trying to accomplish. A healthy community is so much better than what AI Chuds want, always.
There are always other places the AI Chuds could go anyway, like Ubuntu or whatever cesspool infected itself with slop.
your last sentence is willfully ignoring the systematic horrors of AI that can only be properly fought by making AI as a whole socially unacceptable.
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Because who wants another Winblows
Ai isnt going away.
Neither is global warming
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Agreed. But I feel like people are in denial that they can stop Ai. The surveillance aspect alone is keeping Ai alive for good.
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Just like nfts!
