• JillyB ( JillyB@beehaw.org ) 
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      Think about how many wheels and doors you have in your place. Every cabinet and oven has a door. Every building is chock full of doors. I feel like most people only have a few wheels around compared to doors.

      • jnod4 ( jnod4@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I have a wheel on my mouse, four bikes, a scooter, roller blades. Are gears wheels? Then a mechanical watch is breaking records

    • Gears. The car’s transmission alone has probably 30 meshed together on its own, not to mention gears are in everything. Bearings too. Is a sphere a wheel? Casters, slide rails with wheel runners, washers, and conveyor belts feel like they deserve a spot as they are round locomotive devices.

      Doors also are very rare in nature, but a rock pretty regularly forms the right shape for a wheel.

      I might be missing the forest for something that looks like trees, but it feels like there are overwhelmingly more wheels than doors.

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      I was thinking about this.
      I think a roller is fixed and facilitates moving other things.
      And a wheel facilitates moving the thing it is attached to.

      I know it’s just a different frame of reference.

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    Ok I think this actually has way too much speculation and is asking the wrong question. Instead of “in your opinion globally are there more x or y”, why not quantify it? Specifically in your instance, does your living quarters and personal belongings and other places you frequent have more doors or wheels? Go count them. We can actually solve this with enough data.

    For me it’s doors by a long shot. Almost nothing in my life has wheels. I live frugally and cheap furniture usually doesn’t have wheels. I don’t own Lego as other comments suggest. Drawers are not doors. Gears are not wheels. Eyes (wtf) and widows are not doors. The breakdown in my life is:

    42 doors 15 wheels

    • Kongar ( Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      In my life it’s wheels by a long shot. 36 doors. 120 wheels. And that’s counting anything remotely like a door - stuff that’s sus. But all the wheels are 1000% clearly wheels. There are wheels everywhere.

      Edit: and I’m NOT counting the little wheels in all my drawers, or any of the many wheels I encounter and use like shopping carts. It’s SO totally wheels. :)

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          • Car wheels
          • Spare tire wheels
          • Bicycle wheels
          • Suitcase wheels
          • Lawnmower wheels
          • Tool wheels (like a dolly)
          • Wheels on coolers
          • Wheels on furniture/tool chests/tables
          • Wheels on rollerblades and skates
          • Rando equipment with wheels (like my little air compressor or power washer or my weed whacker edger attachment)
          • Wheels on toys from my childhood on a shelf (transformers, legos, evil kenieval motorcycle toy)
          • Wheels on the trays in the dishwasher
          • (I didn’t even count all the little wheels on each kitchen drawer - but those are there too!)
          • wheels on the vacuum and pet cleaner carpet thingy
          • couple of big plants sit on a roll-y tray with wheels
          • desk chairs with wheels there are wheels everywhere!
  • Crozekiel ( Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Every time I’ve seen this come up, it turns into a kind of coastline problem. The closer you look at everything we’ve built you just start finding more and more doors and just as you think it must be the winner you start seeing all the wheels that go along with them (or vice versa).

    It’s impossible to know which one wins without very clear (and limiting) definitions of “door” and “wheel”. Those definitions would have to be equally restrictive to both “doors” and “wheels” or else the limitations decide, not the world we’ve built around us. I posit that anyone claiming to have an answer have made up their own limits of what “counts” and those limitations are likely not equally balanced.

  • BucketBong ( BucketBong@p.hobo.social ) 
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    It’s wheels, it’s always gonna be wheels, most things will have 3 to 4 wheels, trucks have 2 doors 4 to 8 wheels, then you have the trailer that usually has 8 wheels and 2 doors, then you have any industrial machinery that pulls something throughit, because rollers are wheels, also, now I know people will say that houses have lots of doors, but think about it, your vacume has wheels/no door, your fridge has 4 wheels 2 doors, no matter how you try to play this game, wheels always come out on top, they’re infinitely more important to modern society than doors are.

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        Cas have 5 doors max, if you class the steering wheel they have a minimum of 5 wheels, so at worst a car zeros itself out, a bonnet/hood is a lid, so that doesn’t count as a door, factories throw the door to wheel average right out the window, there’s way more wheels involved in a factory or warehouse than there are doors, no matter how you spin it, wheels always come out the winner.

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        The contents of those apartments contain wheels, gears are wheels, so anything that requires gears has wheels, so a proper clock is filled with wheels, then you have rollers, any sliding door will have rollers, thus having wheels, immpretty sure some of those slow self closing door mechanisms have cogs in them, so more wheels. Your fridge has 2 wheels to make the motor work, so more wheels, nearly every single slide out drawer has wheels to help the draw slide out, so say 4 wheels each drawer and you have like 5 drawers, that’s 20 wheels, your vacume cleaner has wheels, some beds have wheels, wheels will always out number doors.

  • I’m going to argue a little for team doors though I wouldn’t say I’m confident.

    Feels like are more things with doors and not wheels than things with wheels and not doors. So many buildings and cabinets and dressers and whatnot. Actually, think of an apartment building. A 1 bedroom apartment will have at least 3 or 4 normal doors plus cabinets and the fridge, times the possibly hundreds of apartments in 1 building, plus probably a couple dozen for maintenance, common areas, and elevators.

    I do think how you define the 2 greatly changes the calculation, but I think doors do compete at least

    • There will also be a door for every breaker box, and for every mailbox.

      But most drawers have 4 wheels per drawer, and each rolling chair has 5 wheels. My dresser has 5 drawers and it’s on wheels, so that adds 24 wheels to the count, without adding a single door. I still think the wheel are very far ahead, even in aparment buildings, even before taking gears, bobbins, and spools into account

      • I think the 3 dressers at my place have 0 wheels between them. None have bottom wheels, the 2 modern dressers use ball bearings, and the vintage one is just wood on wood. Actually the vintage one has a door too.

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        My god, what bizzaro places do all the people commenting here live, where all the furniture has wheels ? Dressers with wheels, fridges with wheels, I’m half expecting TABLES with wheels now 😂

        • I am in Canada, and most large appliances (that are not built in) have wheels so that it’s easier to clean behind them a couple of times a year. The wheels are fairly small, and completely hidden.

          Furniture with wheels, like my dresser, aren’t as common. It’s mostly older, solid wood construction, and the wheels are just as small and hidden as they are on the fridge.

          If your larger appliance doesn’t have wheels on it, we often buy after-market wheel kits for them. That kit has 32 wheels per appliance in order to spread the weight.

          When you add that a lot of drawers here use these types of slides, which adds 4 wheels per drawer, we have some kitchens with over 100 wheels in them.

  • BambiDiego ( BambiDiego@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I think SciShow did a thing like this for Eyes vs Legs.

    It comes down to definition, but if one, but not the other, definition include biological parts then that one wins.

    If no biological being has “wheels” but say, a valve, is considered a “door,” then doors will always win.

    But again, it comes down to definition.

  • Gotta be wheels. You can have one door for most things that would have a door. But for most things with wheels, you’re gonna have between 2 and 4. And I would suspect there are vastly more wheeled objects than buildings, even including the wheeled objects that also have doors. And also what counts as a wheel makes a big difference. Are cogs wheels? Windmills? Anything round and spins?