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alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca )  to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 months ago

Valve releases drivers, notes to make Windows work on Steam hardware, but refuses to support it - doesn’t offer support for ‘Windows on Steam Hardware,’ gaming company provides resources ‘as is’

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Valve releases drivers, notes to make Windows work on Steam hardware, but refuses to support it - doesn’t offer support for ‘Windows on Steam Hardware,’ gaming company provides resources ‘as is’

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  • CrypticCoffee ( CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Why support it? Their specialty is Linux.

    • adarza ( adarza@piefed.ca ) 
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      they are probably just providing the windows drivers that their vendors already have for the components inside the hardware they’re selling.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent ( NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 
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      A big part of PCs is flexibility. I can run Fedora, Sally can run Mint, and Fred can run Windows. Contrast that with an Apple where you are stuck running Mac or some of the more proprietary software oriented vendors where the only way to use half your RGB and even display features is to run in Windows.

      Personally? I run Linux. I am happy. But I also remember when we were happy that Google was focusing on “the open source” project “Android”. And… we see how that went down. And with how many people think SteamOS is something unique and magical? I am happy now but I am definitely thinking about what 2030 will be (… if there is a 2030 but that is a different fear).

      • LogicalErzor ( Logical_Error@fosstodon.org ) 
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        a lot of manufacturers are realizing that the OS is not profitable, just merely a vehicle to shove their products

        the difference between Android and SteamOS is that SteamOS is funding FOSS devs who were already a part of the linux ecosystem and are contributing back to it

        in contrast android built a walled garden while keeping the open source bits for theirselves

        but yeah, its slightly possible that valve could become like google, but i heavily doubt it at the moment

  • 🇾 🇪 🇿 🇿 🇪 🇾 ( Yezzey@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Microsoft has done the same thing for years. They provide software, drivers and workarounds for unsupported scenarios while making it clear they won’t provide full support. Seems fair.

    • fyzzlefry ( fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ) 
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      After working with Microsoft at the enterprise level I can say with confidence they do not offer full support on anything.

      • Nik282000 ( nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 
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        It blows me away that EVERY machine I have worked on in manufacturing runs on Windows or some fuckin one-off HMI thing that has no documentation and can never be upgraded.

    • djdarren ( djdarren@piefed.social ) 
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      Hell, even Apple put in place the tools that Asahi needs to run on Apple Silicon.

      They do literally nothing else, but the fact that Asahi can run in the first place is more than nothing.

  • [deleted] ( snooggums@piefed.world ) 
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    Seems like Microsoft is who should be supporting Windows. It isn’t like Valve can fix Windows issues as Windows isn’t open source.

    Valve offering drivers and notes is what they are able to offer for someone else’s proprietary product.

    • DudeImMacGyver ( DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth ) 
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      Microsoft support one of their own products? Crazy talk.

      • [deleted] ( snooggums@piefed.world ) 
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        The dumbest part of the article is that the author seems to be blaming Valve for games that chose a kernel level anticheat that only works with Windows and consoles.

        But because many anti-cheat apps still aren’t compatible with Linux (hence, SteamOS), installing Windows on Steam hardware is currently the only way that gamers can enjoy titles that require them.

        That isn’t even a Windows issue. That is a publisher choosing an anticheat that has stupid limitations.

        • Midnitte ( Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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          Funny enough, Microsoft is trying to stop kernel antivirus and anticheats due to CrowdStrike…

  • godsammitdam ( godsammitdam@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Dude, I hope GoatSynagogue gets paid to be a kernel level anti cheat shill. They’re ALL over this comment section defending it and windows and toxic community slop multiplayer games. Maybe they work on anti-cheat software and drink the koolaid?

  • alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca ) OP
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    Other than the broad “Microsoft hate” people is thinking about, there are two reason I can think about; and none about Gaben being a Microsoft’s scorned ex-employer.

    1. conflict of interest: Microsoft’s EEE. Look it up. If they rule the OS on which majority of Steam Hardware work on, Microsoft rules on a competitors against it’s “Xbox experience”.
    2. Microsoft doesn’t allow open source drivers to officially run on Windows. Any hardware driver must be done, paid, by close doors at Valve and no extra help as the whole community around mesa and affiliated. There’s a reason why Valve is skipping Nvidia on basically everything.
  • Alatarius ( Alatarius@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    To me it makes sense. Windows is finicky to begin with. And through the lens of Valve and SteamOS, Windows is basically 3rd party, and many software companies don’t support 3rd party “add-ons”.

  • Triumph ( Triumph@fedia.io ) 
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    Refuses? “Here’s a thing you might like.” But I want more.

  • orlyowl ( orlyowl@piefed.ca ) 
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  • crusa187 ( crusa187@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Fuck EA

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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    I mean the hardware was not designed around Windows so I can understand not offering official support for it, even if you can actually get it working.

  • Codpiece ( Codpiece@feddit.uk ) 
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    Who doesn’t love an upgrade?

    • flameleaf ( flameleaf@ani.social ) 
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      sudo apt update && apt upgrade

      • Codpiece ( Codpiece@feddit.uk ) 
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        Just go to Windows update. No need to be typing shit in like it’s the timestamp zero.

        • Anafabula ( Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          Every distro, except some advanced ones, come with a graphical updater

        • flameleaf ( flameleaf@ani.social ) 
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          It’s easier to type than posting a picture of an update button, though.

        • Axolotl ( Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ) 
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          Just use the GUI then!
          https://youtube.com/shorts/XfymVjIVIWY

          Also, i think that if you fear to write, there is some other problem ya should solve :P

  • mushroomman_toad ( mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    deleted by creator

  • hoohoohoot ( hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.app ) Banned
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    Removed by mod

  • craftrabbit ( craftrabbit@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I’m fine with that, if only they would release half-life 3 already…

    • krisevol ( krisevol@lemmus.org ) 
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      I can’t wait for hlf3 on steamVR

      • craftrabbit ( craftrabbit@lemmy.zip ) 
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        I will buy a stream frame and hl3vr and a new living room take my fucking money

        • krisevol ( krisevol@lemmus.org ) 
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          Right me too. HLA was amazing on the index.

  • DudeImMacGyver ( DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth ) 
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    Cool. I don’t see why I would want to do this but its nice that they released drivers!

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