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lautan ( lautan@lemmy.ca )  to Canada@lemmy.ca · 3 months ago

Foreign migrant living illegally in Canada eligible for Ontario welfare, tribunal rules

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Foreign migrant living illegally in Canada eligible for Ontario welfare, tribunal rules

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lautan ( lautan@lemmy.ca )  to Canada@lemmy.ca · 3 months ago
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A tribunal ruled that the man's lack of immigration status in Canada did not exempt him from welfare benefits according to Ontario law.
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  • rozodru ( rozodru@piefed.world ) 
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    oh boy a whole $343 a month, whatever shall the rest of us do?

    whoop de friggin do. a homeless guy can now get enough for a few days of food from the government. $343 isn’t enough to buy shit.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk ( SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ) 
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      1/10 the costs of speeding fines for Doug’s MPPs.

      • ABCatMom ( ABCatMom@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Then there’s also Toronto area MPPs claiming accommodation expenses… in Toronto 🤦‍♀️

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-mpp-tourism-minister-repaying-accommodation-expenses-9.7269670

  • snoons ( snoons@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Public opinion has tracked rising concern over immigration levels in Canada — to 30-year highs — driven largely by pressure on housing, health care and social supports, according to federal government data.

    LOL. If only those services weren’t chronically underfunded by neo-liberals and conservativerporate puppets, then there wouldn’t be any need to blame immigrants for the governments failure to be a fucking government.

    • ImgurRefugee114 ( ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com ) 
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      No you don’t understand we must funnel money into the private sector and hire armies of middlemen and consultants! We can’t have nice things because that would be communism or something

  • dudesss ( dudesss@lemmy.ca ) 
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    American news media creeping in again

  • sin_free_for_00_days ( sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    Do people think the guy’s putting his $343 in an offshore account? That money gets circulated into the local economy really quickly. Last I read in the US, every $1 spent on SNAP generated something around $7 in economic impact.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk ( SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ) 
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      With savvy investment, they could be looking at $345 in a few years.

  • lautan ( lautan@lemmy.ca ) OP
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    This sends a message (add it to the giant pile of them) to the world that Canada is easily exploitable. Come here illegally, stay long enough and we’ll give you a free ride.

    • No_Maines_Land ( No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca ) 
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      came to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

      He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023

      [applied] last fall

      I’d say 26 years working and trying to find work for 2+ more years is long enough for EI benifits. MPs get a pensions after only 6 years.

      • kibblebits ( kibblebits@quokk.au ) 
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        I assume he wasn’t paying taxes into the system by working cash jobs.

        • Bane_Killgrind ( Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          You can read the article, it says so two paragraphs in.

          What about these employers that are avoiding paying into EI and the other programs?

          • ILikeBoobies ( ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 
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            Jail time for fraud.

          • kibblebits ( kibblebits@quokk.au ) 
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            Those employers are bad. Ask the real question you want to ask.

    • its_kim_love ( its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      How dare someone use the services they’ve been paying into.

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        • its_kim_love ( its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          Oh so Canada only has employment taxes and nothing else.

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            • its_kim_love ( its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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              I think you’ll survive giving him $350 a month for 6 months.

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                • its_kim_love ( its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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                  I disagree and so does this court.

            • nyan ( nyan@lemmy.cafe ) 
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              Depends on how much you’re making. This guy has probably been below the poverty line the whole time he’s been in this country. If he’s been making less than the Basic Personal Amount income tax credit that anyone can claim, he wouldn’t be paying any tax even if he’d been doing everything by the book and above-board. If he wasn’t very far above it, he’d have been paying a pittance—probably less than he was paying out in sales taxes for everything he bought over the course of twenty-odd years.

        • discomatic ( discomatic@lemmy.ca ) 
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          I don’t think you understand how economics work, sport.

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      easily exploitable? do you even KNOW how much a person on Ontario Works can get? ESPECIALLY SINCE HE’S HOMELESS?

      HEY EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, COME GET YOUR FREE $343 A MONTH FOR 6 MONTHS!!!

      fucking idiot.THAT is how much a homeless person in Ontario gets a month from Ontario Works. $343. that’s it. a month.

      that’s enough for MAYBE a few days worth of food for a homeless person. How do I know? I lived it.

      • cerothem ( Cerothen@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I’m not weighing in here for our against the posted issue however EI payments are weekly not monthly. When I was on paternity leave the high end of those payments was ~560 per week and paternity leave payments are equal to other forms of unemployment.

        Again, I’m not bothering to read the article, or do the digging if this person is eligible. I’m just advising that I think you might be off on the total value that could be received.

        • rozodru ( rozodru@piefed.world ) 
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          It’s not EI, he can’t get EI cause he never had a real job. he’s getting Ontario Works which, again, is paid monthly and is $343 a month…

        • Rat_in_a_hat ( Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca ) 
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          No, they’re right. EI is different from welfare

          https://benefitcheck.ca/blog/ontario-works-rates-2026-eligibility-guide

          A single person on Ontario Works receives a maximum of $733 per month ($343 for basic needs + $390 for shelter). A couple receives up to $1,136 per month .

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        • Concetta ( vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          What the fuck is wrong with you?

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            • Concetta ( vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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              Ah yes, because the only cost they have every month is food. Literally nothing else, just food

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    • snoons ( snoons@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Judging by your incredibly racist comment, you currently lack the mental capacity to read more than a sentence.

      …he had come to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

      He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023 when he entered the homeless shelter system, he told the tribunal.

      2026-1997 = 29

      Twenty-nine years of work. That is not a free ride dumbass. Actually read the article before you share your racist viewpoints, and then please do share them so we can clown on you.

      Even if they weren’t working, one would have to ask, why not? Is it actually malicious, or something else? All in all, how can we help them become someone who can sustain the capacity to help others?

    • blartcap_ ( blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The only people sending this message are morons who think the NP is a reputable source of news and not conservative agiprop.

    • T (they/she) ( Templa@beehaw.org ) 
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      Do you think the only taxes you pay are income taxes?

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    • maam ( maam@feddit.uk ) 
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      Hating on vulnerable people….

  • maam ( maam@feddit.uk ) 
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    Stop posting the garbage national post.

  • ILikeBoobies ( ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 
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    We’ll deal with this after we get rid of Ford… And probably the 80 years it’ll take to economically recover from him.

  • Rat_in_a_hat ( Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Good, it went through the courts. Now they should work on providing him actual status to remain.

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    Good.

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