Senator Lindsey Graham dedicated his life to serving the people of South Carolina and the United States.
Throughout his career, he stood resolutely in defence of democracy and freedom, most recently and particularly with Ukraine and its people.
I offer my condolences to Senator Graham’s family, friends, and all those who served alongside him.
It’s real. Apparently Joly and Anand also chimed in.
Graham was an absolute fucking cunt. The only thing he was ever good at was eating Trump’s ass. Everyone knows he loved going deep on that one.
What the absolute fuck, etc. Could have and SHOULD have said nothing.
In case you don’t know what Lindsay Graham was, especially in Canadian context, David Doel did a good recap.
Carney’s playing politics, riling up Trump or the Republicans would just put his statements into the news cycle for weeks and then the 51st rhetoric would go around again.
That being said, yeah, saying nothing sounds good. If it wasn’t nothing, I would have preferred him just keep it far more neutral.
He should not have said anything, if he had to I would have really preferred he rilled up the Trump ass eaters. Got Canadians back to the boycott a little more.
It’s rhetorical appeasement. And to be clear, I’m drawing a parallel with Chamberlain.
Trump only care about himself.
I kind of assume Carney is part of the new liberal establishment (think Clinton, Biden but also Bush) so recently overthrown by Trumpism in the US - but I’m not Canadian so it’s a little fuzzy.
The last sentence would be acceptable, first two weren’t really true
The rate at which I am losing respect for this clown, is ludicrous.
I’m curious to see if he makes it past 1 term at this rate. The problem is, now that Libs and Cons are blurring, does the NDP get stronger or was fascism in Canada only briefly delayed?
I lost all respect for him the moment he started proposing bill C-2 (now C-22) and others.
Nope. Learn when to keep your mouth shut Mark. This, is not working to unite Canada.
Shut up, Mark.
Sounds like the same B.S.
If only they said “despite our disagreements, my heart goes out to the grieving family” or some other tasteful bullshit to dodge it. I’d look the other way, I’d say that politicians do what they have to do.
But they don’t. They are straight up sucking up to his corpse for no reason at all. Also, Carney was really happy about the attacks against Iran, so fuck him all over.
oh fuck off Mark. all that good will and optimism from the people you had earlier this year you’ve quickly squandered. You have quickly turned your party into “The Cons V2” so now we have to rely on the god damn NDP who STILL don’t have their shit together.
you’re not helping, you didn’t need to say anything, Stop ass kissing the US when you were in fucking commercials with mike myers saying “elbows up”. fuck off buddy. I TOTALLY regret voting for this ass clown.
Lewis is working pretty quickly to make the NDP relevant again. That’s why Poilivre is being kept around despite no hope of forming a majority - to drive Canada towards a two party system.
Liberals have been acting like the USA democrat faux progressives for a while. Like when smaller parties started running on voter reform to avoid getting stuck in the same two party ‘fascists vs faux opposition’ deal that has already turned the states into a corrupt pillaging competition. Liberals suddenly ran on voter reform, and when Trudeau won he was immediately like “oh THAT’S what voter reform means? Oh of course we’re not doing THAT lol.” and all momentum for voter reform was lost.
Corpo fascists in anti fascist clothing, and local progressives can’t seem to gather without chasing all of the effort out of the group with local toe stepping, and god forbid instead of bombs we ever get money put into taking modern understanding of complex systems and using it to scale heterarchical cooperation between non-identical groups with honest progressive intents.
So you have fascists pretending to be progressive, and progressives attacking different kinds of progressives instead of the fascists, and everyone gets mad when you try to make this particular framing more salient.
I got weird looks when I’d originally been asked what I thought about Carney before his election, and I said "he is saying and doing the right things, but I only expect that to last as far as it’s opportunistically useful.
He’s playing the political game now in a way that legitimizes that fascist regime that keeps threatening our country, and I’m not on the side of ‘safely’ capitulating to fascist regimes.
Fuck you too, Mark.
People have been calling Carney a “red Tory” but I think he’s actually a 2000s era neoconservative. We’ve more or less made David fucking Frum our prime minister.
Let us also not forget that Lindsey Graham called for the invasion of Canada at least once. That is apparently what the “right, honourable” Mark Carney considers to be a resolute defender of democracy.
Lol everyone in this thread is acting like an outrage addicted moron.
Learn how to play politics dumbasses, sometimes it involves doing and saying distasteful things.
Grow up.
Lindsey Graham has called for the invasion of Canada. You know what else is good politics? Knowing when to shut the fuck up.
You know what’s quite frankly more important right now then pissing and moaning about Graham’s sycophantic public statements to please Trump?
Convincing Trump to keep supporting Ukraine.
Indignant outrage is a cheap high, not smart politics.
You know what absolutely did not convince Trump to keep supporting Ukraine? This stupid ass fucking tweet.
Also, guess what. Carney doesn’t need Lindsey Graham’s vote or Donald Trump’s vote to keep his position. He needs our votes, so maybe praising someone who wanted the USA to invade Canada is actually really stupid politics.
You know what absolutely did not convince Trump to keep supporting Ukraine? This stupid ass fucking tweet.
You literally don’t know that. Lots of people have accused Mark Rutte of pandering to Trump, but from all reporting it’s worked because Trump is actually that vane. Reminding him that one of his closest supporters vehemently supported Ukraine has a chance of moving the needle.
Also, guess what. Carney doesn’t need Lindsey Graham’s vote or Donald Trump’s vote to keep his position. He needs our votes, so maybe praising someone who wanted the USA to invade Canada is actually really stupid politics.
Lmfao “why isn’t carney pandering to us, we’re the reactionarily outraged!”
I think you’re confusing him for PP, Carney is the one who behaves like an adult.
Pandering to us? What, you mean Canadians? Who would presumably like not being invaded by the USA? Should Carney not pander to his constituents over dead US senators?
Let us also recall that what you are calling pandering here, is just not saying anything.
Not every statement is designed to appeal to you personally.
If years from now you don’t vote for Carney because of this tweet, everyone will look at you extremely confused.
This is just ragebait from OP, nothing more.
Well Carney could at least design a statement that appeals to Canada instead of Donald Trump. That would sure be nice. He was elected to represent us, after all.
Never praise war criminals
Lmfao, “the best path forward is one of naiivey doing whatever seems most right to outside observers”.
Again, give up the rageahol, and grow up.
You are ok with praising a war criminal calling for genocide and invading canada. Trump only care about himself, there is no good reason to praise this scum.
He’s literally praising him to try and convince Trump to keep supporting Ukraine.
That alone is good enough reason.
He is praising a war criminal supporting every bloody USA wars , who threatened Canada , who called for flattening Gaza, comparing Palestine to Nazi Germany. Only an idiot believe this will make trump support Ukraine more. You should revaluate your shitty moral compass
You should reevaluate your Internet usage and how addicted to outrage you are.
Anybody with a single grain of morality get outraged by people defending scummy people and warmongers
That’s just it.
In Canada the proper politics would be to celebrate another dead yankee.
To appease the US you can write a message like this.
Meeting in the middle is saying nothing. So the good pragmatist makes no statement.
This is simple-munded nonsense.
“You’re either with us or against us.”
It’s binary thinking garbage.
How is listing 3 options a binary?
Strongly disagree with what Carney said, but not sure he could say anything other.
Shoulda said nothing. I highly doubt anything material and good comes from this message. Saying nothing would’ve avoided the rest.
And who the fuck is out there demanding the Canadian PM say something about a relatively old American senator dying of an illness? Literally the only reason to ask for a comment is to try to incite some inflammatory bullshit from one angle or another.
I keep wondering if Carney is gambling on the rapist kicking it sooner rather than later and just spewing platitudes to keep rapists eyes on other things.
Some would say being authentic goes a long way these days. Artificial platitudes don’t land like they used to.
Looking like you’re being authentic while actually not being works even better, though.
What an absolute cuck of a prime minister, fuck this guy.
Politicians are the only invertebrate mammals.
Fuck carney the bullshitter
My statement is “rest in piss, bozo”
