Did the lady try to talk to her neighbor first?
OOP does not clarify.
But.
I have seen what happens when you put cardboard boxes whole in the cardboard recycling bin: it’s “full” immediately!
I have also seen people who do not remove the styrofoam filling before dumping them.
Or don’t even bother putting them inside the bin, just leaving it by the side.
All that gets my blood boiling. This casual carelessness because “it’s trash, so what?”Again, the first step should always be to point this out to newcomers, but.
The fact that OOP basically says “cardboard is nothing” and says they’d burn it instead tells me they just might be the asshole here.
Yea, I got a slight tingle here of OOP not being entirely without a fault on this one. But then again, my flavour of the ‘tism makes me meticulously fold and compact all of my trash to avoid any wasted space.
The neighbor should’ve just talked to OP first.
But yeah, how hard is it for people to flatten their cardboard? Dare I say, it is even fun sometimes getting to stomp on it.
It’s definitely fun!
9/10 times it’s a legit problem, the neighbour would just ask you nicely. If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it. Going through someone’s trash and photographing indentifying information on the other hand is a felony, so OOP might’ve just found a way to finance that lawyer for themselves.
But this is one side of a story in which the neighbour went from 0 to lawyer with no warning and OOP (presumed innocent and tidy) is apparently fed up with the entire country because of that. Seems to me pretty escalatory by the only side presenting the narrative.
So giving the benefit of the doubt to the othe side: if you are a messy tenant and do not listen to reason, good riddance to you.
If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it
Disagree: You cannot safely ignore this, because it is not a normal invoice and not some primitive nutjob.
There is a lawyer behind it, and this lawyer wants to get paid. Something that does not go away by itself.
It is just a lawyer - they can ask and demand anything they like. If it’s unjustified (like here for example) just ignore it.
If it’s something from COURT, you HAVE to answer it. But lawyers - don’t give them more credit than they deserve
If it’s unjustified (like here for example)
What do you know about this case that we don’t know?
Context
The OP is living there for three months. Even IF they are the dirtiest of all tenants (which is unlikely, but still possible), if we take into regard you need at least a month or two to settle and get your essential furniture in place, the remaining time is WAY too short to state something like “kind” strikes or advisories first - which is kinda required for such a formal step through a lawyer if you want to make it grounded and with actual reason.
The whole matter does sound like a xenophobic lady with too much time and a very short fuse - and a personal friend of her or her family being the lawyer responsible for the whole matter. That’s why I would simply ignore it for the time being.
you can ignore it if it isn’t a court mandated order. the lawyer wants to be paid, but they don’t need to be paid by OOP. they’re perfectly fine being paid by the harassing neighbor, which is what will happen eventually. there are always some of these harassment cases, and generally they go away if you just ignore them because there is no legal backing. the lawyer just scares you into compliance and if you pay that gets seen as an admission of guilt. there are several types of legal letters but most of them don’t require responding at all.
I’m with you on this. Nothing screams entitlement more than throwing uncut/unfolded boxes in the bin.
From how the neighbour is acting it might actually be the landlady. In that case it would be legal for her to do so.
We all know OP didn’t fold his boxes at all and just stuffed them in there, blocking up the system. Every time the lady wanted to use the paper container it would be blocked and she would have to reach in there and remove all of his shit. Then properly collapse the boxes and put them back. OP has also been told multiple times to fix his shit and there is a sign above the paper container as well.
The exact same thing happened where I work. Some idiot would just stuff an unfolded box in the paper container and would block it for everyone.
Ah yes, we all “know”, because the terrible neighbour bogeyman in our heads must be real, how could it not? /s
„Wir sind hier nicht in Vietnam! Wir sind in Baden-Württemberg, da gibt es Regeln!“
Krieg, Krieg bleibt immer gleich
Und? Wie hat OP denn die Kartons gefaltet? Ich will ein Fotobeweis, also die Chancen sind eher gering bei der Beschreibung der Nachbarin. Aber villeicht isser ja doch das Arsch?!
Die Kartons waren wahrscheinlich nicht gefaltet?
Well, don’t think of coming to Switzerland until you learned how to make a proper Bündeli either!
Die Schweiz - Deutschland auf Steroiden.
Just for explanation: The lady has probably not spent money on a lawyer. The lawyer demands it from you as the “guilty” party (presumed guilty, because no court is involved so far).
If you want to save some money, google for the term “modifizierte Unterlassungserklärung”. Hopefully you find good instructions there.
No, she’s in a Mieterschutzverein. They’ll pay the lawyers for the most stupid shit and somehow don’t care about how like 0.01% of their members are racking up 95% of their lawyer costs for insane reasons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Sein Fehler war halt nach BW zu ziehen. Ländle of the Kehrwoche, home of the Spießbürger. Machste nix. /s
Anzeige ist natürlich übertrieben, aber unzerkleinerte Kartons in die gemeinsame Tonne zu tun ist schon ziemlich unsozial.
Währenddessen wohne ich in einer niedersächsischen Studentenstadt, wenn die Leute in meinem Haus es hinbekommen den Biomüll aus der plastikverpackung zu nehmen bevor sie ihn in die grüne Tonne werfen ist das seltener als ein Lottogewinn.
Kartons zerkleinern? Absolut utopisch. Muss aber sagen das mache ich selbst auch nur bei größeren Sachen.
Auf der haben seite, wir haben trotzdem selten Platzmangel in den Tonnen.
Bei uns ist auch regelmäßig der wildeste Kram in der Gelben Tonne. Von Wäscheständer über Ventilator bis Kinderwagen schon alles gefunden :/…
Wenn die Nachbarn beim ersten Vorstellen schon betonen “Wir können über alles reden, wir sind ja keine Spießer”, du vom Vormieter weißt das “über alles reden” in Form von “…lautstark mit dem Nachbarn über dir während sie in deinem Garten steht” geschieht, und du dann irgendwann aus dem Nichts per Mail ne Beschwerde bekommst in der dein Schlafzimmer von außen fotografiert wurde und besagte nicht-Spießerin im Spiegelbild sichtbar ist…
This is one of the many reasons I always destroy anything bearing my name before disposal.
Ist Reddit nicht nur noch alles Bots zum Ragebaiten?
Just fold your boxes like a decent person. It’s not hard. Have some consideration for your fellow humans.
Cover the boxes in fart spray
That post is AI slop by the way.
Ich bin so froh dass unsere aktuelle Wohnung überdimensionierte Müllcontainer hat. Da kann einem fast alles egal sein, die werden niemals zu voll. Da falten die Hälfte der Leute auch keine Kartons. Und es ist einfach egal, weil genug Container dastehen. Was für ein Luxus!
