I don’t understand how Patrick hiding a DDOS attack in his “goodbye” message isn’t grounds for banning his alts on that server according to their policy. It literally is breaking the law in many countries
Edit: for that matter, .world should consider the same for his alts there
I just think it’s hilarious that instead of “saving” the fediverse they fractured it. Whiney bitches love to break shit then whine about it being broken.
I would say they’ve brought the fediverse together like never before. I don’t think this many people have agreed on a single thing in the history of fedi.
I would definitely agree. Despite our differences, we all have one thing in common. We don’t like being deceived by those who build the frontends we use. We trust our credentials to these people and trust they aren’t going to screw us over. He violated that trust and people are right to be pissed about it.
Agreed.
It showed the broad spirit of the users, and that the fundamental nature of the federation design model… works literally exactly as it was intended to.
Sure, you can be the petty tyrant of your own fiefdom.
But no one rules everything, and anyone, at a comparatively low actual cost of entry, can make their own fiefdom, if they want to.
Maybe we should all be thanking nutomic and Dessalines, regardless of any specific disagreements any of us may have with them, for doing the fundamental conceptual and coding work.
Lemmy’s origin story:
Lemmy.world isn’t going to take action against his account. They already don’t take actions against the no-content sockpuppet accounts and extremist trolls who use their instance. They should take action against them, they likely won’t though.
This whole situation is bizzare
what ddos attack? link?
I mean, does it really count as separate drama or a continuation of existing drama?
Continuation for sure.
The whole “you violated our policy but we can’t tell you how you violated it” thing has heavy big-tech gaslighting vibes.
It even has the “here is a link to the entirety of our policy” trope. Like com’on, bruh, this is actually making me angry just reading it regardless of context.
I loathe that sort of shit.Smells like Reddit
I made a single comment asking how someone can be anti-trans and a fascist boot licker but also a star trek fan.
Guess who I asked.
That was my first instance. Turns out it’s the star trek has gotten too woke kind of people running it?! Ah well, llap 🖖
I think they actually use star trek as a cover to find leftist and trans people to add the to their list
Report to your nearest Starfleet officer if you’re aware of anyone queer or has communist sympathies, Admiral Patrick McCarthy needs your support to Make Lemmy Reddit Again
I had forgotten the reason the .website was first formed, and then some of the posters returned to .world later. I wonder if there is anyone out there documenting all the different lore bits.
Well, I’m the one who caused the exodus from Startrek.website so… if you’ve got any questions, just ask.
The tl;dr was thus:
ST.W was made in response to redditors leaving reddit. It was created, and is run, by the same moderators who created and ran /r/StarTrek. Those moderators have a metric ton of drama surrounding them on reddit to the point that Star Trek fragmented into a hundred different subreddits to avoid being associated with what everyone was considering toxic moderation. Even toxic by reddit standards.
So when startrek.website started, the same behavior did too. Curtailing opinions is a big one. ValueSubtracted@Startrek.website, one of the admins, literally cannot help himself. He’s a diehard defender of the newer treks, much like I am, but he takes any slight against the show as an active insult. Where I will only remove things that are categorically false or dogwhistle-type homophobia/racism, he will remove anything that is negative about the newer shows. He will tell you to stay on topic or be positive and refuses any negative coverage.
I first joined startrek.website as Stamets (although I was on lemmy before that) and started posting. Things were going well until I started seeing posts removed from their Star Trek meme community for nonsense reasons. I asked the admins what was up and they handwaved away the abuse from the moderator of that community (USS Burrito Truck) and their own abuse. So I left startrek.website and set up TenForward on lemmy.world (something I’ve left for Risa@lemmy.dbzero.com although I’ve been very inactive for the past month due to life). I sent messages to the other big posters who were active, friends of mine by that point, asking if they’d want to join me on TenForward. They said yes. By this point, nothing was really posted publicly by me save for a comment or two around the time I left. Those comments were removed/deleted.
The first couple weeks went by smoothly for the comm but not for me. ValueSubtracted started reaching out to several admins of different instances, asking them all to ban me from their instances. Those admins all reported it to me like “What is his problem?” and denied him. So I made a post on Mastodon saying that people should consider staying away from startrek.website due to some odd admin decisions. Within 24 hours I had gotten an email from my mastodon instance saying that there was a report against that post and I needed to clarify it with my admin. I gave her the information and she said the report had no merit and dismissed it. But it was clear who made the report.
We then started getting reports on TenForward for every tiny comment and every tiny post, accusing the community of causing cross instance harassment that was directed towards them. Most of these comments were passively talking about what was going on. There was no hate or harassment but the reports were coming from ValueSubtracted and were overloading the report section. Like maxing out the character count.
I asked him politely to stop several times and he kept doubling down and refusing to stop. It was at that point, realizing he wouldn’t stop until he was forced to, that I made a giant post about it. Included all the screenshots of the private messages he sent me, the reports, the insane shit, everything. Proving conclusively that the level of harassment they had risen to was going across multiple websites.
That post was lost when I deleted my lemmy.world account. Or so I thought. Someone sent me the internet archive page for it yesterday. So if you’re curious yourself…
Yeah it’s a real shame that st.w is run by Section 31 and Admiral Leyton.
Glad I already deleted my account there. And blocked the instance.
Shame, but I’d rather not be around members of a fandom that actively support shitty and shady practices like that, and I sure as FUCK don’t want an admin that’s complicit
explicitly allows discussions about hurting people
Remember kids, wishing death upon mass murderers makes you just as bad as them actually.
Edit: to the coddled, enlightened brunchers incapable of reading the room, itching to have their righteous moment under my comment: next time the IDF starts randomly airstriking the shit out of my quaint little (Christian no less) town, I personally invite you to join me for coffee and contemplating mortality on my veranda. I’ll be so impressed by your opinion on the lives of the people who are dropping WAR ORDINANCE around you and consider me a terrorist because of where I’m from (and you one for sitting for coffee with me). It’ll be so inspiring. You’ll love it, I make decent coffee. Wouldn’t that be fun.
Someone should tell Star Treks “section 31” then :-)
Out of curiosity what app do you use? For whatever reason I’ve never been able to get .gifs to upload (work in comments) using Jerboa.
Boost.
GIFs often fail to upload due to size restrictions of the instances we use. When that happens, I upload to imgur or catbox and embed the link instead.
Is this the same Star Trek instance that had some huge drama with The Picard Manuever (? Maybe it was someone else?) that led to a user exodus? Or a different one?
Idk probably, the admins and mods over there are always power tripping about something.
There was also the whole Stamets writeup last year about their bs to
Stamets! That’s who I was thinking of.
I guessed I’d be seeing something here with the bans and removals that started cropping up in that thread…
100% PTB. Just removing anyone who is pointing out that its related to tesseract, a total lie, etc.
What an asshole
Punishing the victims? really?
I mean at least it is an instance doing the defederation and announcing it publicly (so people who don’t like this can leave). This also makes a great example for people who don’t understand the difference between banning lists in apps vs instances.
Love it 🙄 Just deleted my account there, fuck those assholes.
Make you worse, you you wish death and they don’t wish it they do it.
Gonna need some clarification on that sentence.
Yeah I failed a sarcasm… I wanted to show that wishing harm is seen as bladder than killing people
I’m probably bladder than you. Or am I? Wait, what does it mean?
And now the whole thread is deleted.
Looks like its just locked to me
Only locked after sanitizing. And conveniently that’s the only place they stated they’d talk about it. Convenient that literally no one from their instance got to comment before its removal.
