• More like, if you start pointless wars for no reason, at least send your own sons and daughters to die for your vain pursuit of power, instead of the sons and daughters of the poor who only signed up to escape the poverty trap or because their entire world growing up was designed to dupe them into believing that’s what heros do…

          • If you’re in america and you’re willing to fight a war to escape poverty, but it’s NOT class war, you’re a piece of shit racist Nazi bitch. You telling me to cry over Nazis getting their balls blown off?

            Because I will if you get the timing and music right. That sounds hilarious.

            • You sound like you don’t realize how many black and brown people there are in the US military. You make it sound like it’s a bunch of white supremacists. Maybe those types exist, but they’re not the norm.

              Also, you seem to be forgetting that the failures of the american education system especially apply in impoverished areas, and that recruiters systematically groom and poach students before they even turn 18, using every psychological trick in the book and filling them full of as many promises as they think they want to hear.

              Chances are, most people who enlist at 17 or 18 don’t know enough about the US’s “foreign wars” to realize how deeply unjust those wars have been.

              Calling them all nazis is fucking ignorant. It’s not like they’re ICE, who signed up specifically to violently round up and deport brown people while enjoying impunity for all their crimes up to and including extrajudicial public executions.

              Good luck winning your class war if you’re going around calling every veteran a fascist though. Most of them are getting fucked over by this regime as hard as anyone else. You wouldn’t last a fucking day in a real war.

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      Let’s be fair that some people do it for personal honour, their family’s honour and/or they like doing it, or any other reason, doesn’t necessarily have to be for the country or the leaders. I don’t work because I love my CEO, I do it to make a living and at least I make a living doing something I don’t hate. My CEO just happens to benefit from it and likewise, the country’s leaders also benefit

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        To me, I can’t accept that.

        Being any part of any military expresses an ignorance about what militaries exist for and what your job is, to basically be a dog of the state. In this era choosing to be in the military says you’re a dog of the state choosing to have one piece of shit owner.

        Joining up either expresses the heaviest level of “fuck them I’ll get mine” mentality or straight up drank the Kool aid and just fill ignorance that can’t be by passed. One can no longer act like they don’t know what the American military does.

        To me anyone who has joined the military since 9/11 is a fool and complicit with cruelness. Anyone who has joined up since Trump took office over a decade ago is just beyond a braindead idiot.