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qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Mod Abuse Hotline@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish · 3 months ago

Lemmy Zip management banned all of their 1380 users from fun content because of the reason "denialism".

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Lemmy Zip management banned all of their 1380 users from fun content because of the reason "denialism".

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qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Mod Abuse Hotline@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish · 3 months ago
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https://lemmy.zip/c/funhole@lemmy.sdf.org

https://lemmy.zip/u/qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org

https://lemmy.zip/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=25927

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  • Demigodrick ( Demigodrick@piefed.zip ) 
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    Hi there

    You got banned from lemmy.zip (over a year ago btw) for denying the genocide in Palestine.

    This has the effect of removing the communities you moderate too, otherwise they wouldn’t be moderated from our side.

    Quite happy standing by that decision.

    • Not Dr. Wesker ( notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      Quite happy standing by that decision.

      rule 1 victim blaming

      • Zedstrian ( Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Not that there aren’t sometimes genuine instances of mod abuse, but how is a mod supposed to defend themselves and their reputation without being able to reply to reports on here with their reasoning?

        • Not Dr. Wesker ( notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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          By not including the victim blaming at the very end of their otherwise perfectly fine post.

          • ProdigalFrog ( ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ) 
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            How is them stating they are pleased to stand by a decision they made victim blaming?

            • Not Dr. Wesker ( notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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              This is a safe space. If anyone is pleased at the abuse that has been levied towards a thread creator, then it’s victim abuse, regardless of their involvement.

              • redlightdistrict ( redlightdistrict@beehaw.org ) 
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                What are you talking about. If denied then they are not a victim but an idiot who deserved it.

                • Not Dr. Wesker ( notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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                  This is a safe space.

    • socsa ( socsa@piefed.social ) 
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      Is there a link to the denial?

      • Demigodrick ( Demigodrick@piefed.zip ) 
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        image

        It’s hard to traverse when someone has been banned & their content removed - thats just the first thing that jumps out in the modlog.

        • socsa ( socsa@piefed.social ) 
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          Ouch. Thank you for posting revelatory content…

          • pmjv ( pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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            it’s a title of an article that was shared in c/news

            The block boss doesn’t understand that.

            • ProdigalFrog ( ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ) 
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              But the body of the article also claims that it isn’t a genocide, and tries to conflate antizionism with antisemitism by saying that people who call it a genocide are one of those things (or both), and that it’s just a way to hate on Jewish people (instead of it clearly being a charge against the Israeli government). Per the text:

              So why does the argument over the word “genocide” matter? Two reasons.

              First, while some pundits and scholars may sincerely believe the genocide charge, it is also used by anti-Zionists and antisemites to equate modern Israel with Nazi Germany. The effect is to license a new wave of Jew hatred, stirring enmity not only for the Israeli government but also for any Jew who supports Israel as a genocide supporter. It’s a tactic Israel haters have pursued for years with inflated or bogus charges of Israeli massacres or war crimes that, on close inspection, weren’t. The genocide charge is more of the same but with deadlier effects.

              What is qrstuv’s stance on the body of the text?

              • pmjv ( pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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                You would have to ask him.

                • ProdigalFrog ( ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ) 
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                  I wish that was more helpful in understanding their views, but unfortunately I’ve seen pro-israeli people who try to couch things by mentioning that the killing of Palestinians is bad, but (insert qualifier for why Israel has a right to defend itself, etc). To be clear I’m not saying that qrstuv is doing that as well there, just that it doesn’t really clear things up as much as hoped.

                  I also want to mention I am not a fan of purity testing, I think it can result in witch hunts and potentially mob sentiment, but there is a point where it’s useful for someone to make their views clear so as not to be misunderstood. qrstuv has been posting what I would personally consider pro-israeli propaganda nytimes articles for quite some time now, without ever adding any of their own additional context that would clearly show they are posting it to point out how ridiculous it is, to mock, etc.

                  Some Examples (most of which now appear to be deleted from sdf itself? but are still are visible on my instance):

                  • There’s Only One Path to Victory in Iran
                  • How Migrant Workers Have Been Affected by Iran’s Strikes
                  • Iranian TV and Social Media Project Defiant and Distorted View of the War
                  • Trump and Netanyahu Are Doing the Free World a Favor
                  • The Case for Striking Iran
                  • Why Have You Started This War, Mr. President?
                  • The War Is Going Better Than You Think

                  I’m a big fan of Funhole, and I get that this is a very jokey sorta group where serious responses aren’t the norm, but I do think in this instance it’d probably be appropriate for them to be less ambiguous on their stance just to clear the air here.

                  That’s just my 2 cents.

            • marduk ( marduk@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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              Can’t prove OP isn’t the NYT

              • pmjv ( pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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                Touché!

  • pieguy ( pieguy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Well that’s denialism for y’a: They’re denying their userbase access to your content

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

  • Linearity ( Linearity@piefed.zip ) 
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    wtf? I thought .zip was one of the more flexible instances; they even federate with hexbear. What could have possibly happened?

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

    • Valmond ( Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Maybe “hexbear” is where you should start your search? It’s the worst lemmy out there.

  • Krusty ( Krusty@quokk.au ) 
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    I have that entire instance blocked.

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

  • pmjv ( pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    I’m so sorry you’ve done this to us!

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

  • originalucifer ( originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ) 
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    gotta be better instances out there that dont make those decisions for users

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

      • Valmond ( Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Shut up.

        • Not Dr. Wesker ( notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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          rule 1 victim blaming

    • AwesomeLowlander ( AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      OP was instance banned for being a zionist, so meh. TDI.

  • Dr. Wesker ( wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    I’m so sorry this happened to you again, and again.

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

  • ParadoxConstant ( ParadoxConstant@thelemmy.club ) deleted by creator
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    deleted by creator

  • pieguy ( pieguy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    wait wtf there’s no search query for me to giggle at!

    • qrstuv ( qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org ) OP
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      Thank you for your support.

  • Krusty ( Krusty@quokk.au ) 
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    Uhm. You’re banned there.

    Try your current account server: https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/funhole (manually copy and paste this into a new tab if needed)

    And not https://lemmy.zip/ …

  • decolo ( decolo@piefed.social ) 
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    directional clicking intensifies

  • prettybunnys ( prettybunnys@piefed.social ) 
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    Thank you for abusing the mods

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