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alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca )  to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 2 months ago

Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca )  to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 2 months ago
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Microsoft and Sony argue no obligation to pass on tariff refunds, file to dismiss consumer lawsuits
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  • reallykindasorta ( reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net ) 
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    Just to highlight the good actors too:

    For one thing, Arctic announced a price rollback after securing its refund, saying this will continue until “every single dollar Arctic received […] has been paid back to our customers.”

    Panic, maker of the Playdate handheld, has taken a bolder stance, offering refunds to those who bought its console and were charged extra for its tariffs. Company co-founder Cabel Sasser said last month, “It’s just not our money to keep.”

  • kibblebits ( kibblebits@quokk.au ) 
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    Ha ha ha ha. It was a fucking griffffttttt!!!

  • im_fine_sandy ( im_fine_sandy@nord.pub ) 
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    I really hate that companies being hostile to their customers has become normalised such that it’s really expected.

    There’s very clearly a right and scrupulous thing to do. Not having an obligation to do that is not an excuse not to.

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      The reality is that it was all just a way to give a stimulus to companies without saying directly

      • im_fine_sandy ( im_fine_sandy@nord.pub ) 
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        That’s obvious, and it’s not what I’m talking about.

  • db_null ( db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    No one could have possibly anticipated this

  • 1984 ( 1984@lemmy.today ) 
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    People are butthurt about this but don’t have the willpower to not buy or use their products.

    • Tja ( Tja@programming.dev ) 
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      Or to vote for someone who has more than one word in their vocabulary: tariffs

  • HumbleExaggeration ( HumbleExaggeration@feddit.org ) 
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    Please don’t forget who enacted these unlawful tariffs in the first place and who, to this day, uses them to blackmail other countries.

  • SomeRandomNoob ( SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    And we have no obligation to buy their products. Bodycott is the only language companies understand

  • RadiallyAxiomatic ( RadiallyAxiomatic@lemmy.ca ) 
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    If the government wanted the people to have it they could have stipulated that or, better yet, given it directly to the people. You need a complicit government for ‘privatized profit; socialized loses’

  • xSikes ( xSikes@feddit.online ) 
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    If some people haven’t woken up to reality yet and this other nail in the coffin doesn’t do it, I don’t know what will.

  • Midnitte ( Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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    I believe UPS and FedEx are required to make refunds as people were explicitly charged tariff related fees.

    Because Sony and Microsoft just baked the price in, its a little hard to get them to refund since theres technically nothing to refund (as shady and fucked up and goodwill burning as it is).

    • Auli ( Auli@lemmy.ca ) 
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      They know who purchased a new console in that time frame they could give them at least gift cards or something. Or like the one company reducing cost till the money is gone. It might not be the same people but your customers at least git it.

      • Midnitte ( Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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        Well, hence the goodwill burning part.

        They obviously dont value us as customers, so I say dont give them business

  • starblursd ( starblursd@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Obligated? No

    They’re doing it for the love of the game

  • bibbasa ( bibbasa@piefed.social ) 
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    yeah fuck you too

  • racemaniac ( racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Yes, that’s correct, they are under no obligation. Obviously. It would be nice if they did that, but there is obviously no obligation.

  • nibbler ( nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Unpopular opinion I guess, but sure. Why should they? They sold good for a price they deemed worthy, calculated their dues and risk, and customer bought it for this price.

    Companies have to maximize their profit.

    People should not be mad at those companies. Proper targets are: Those who created unlawful taxes, capitalism or the specific rules within capitalism or the (in this case) the USA.

  • DebatableRaccoon ( DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Sony already don’t want me to buy their games, so at least they’ve ensured they don’t owe me a refund.

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