“cheaper than the Index”
I want to beat Sam Altman to death with my bare hands.
Do it. Be the Luigi in the world you want to see.
Just say chatgpt made you do it. That helps to get away with it apparently
Inflation adjusted the index was $1300 at launch, so, they kinda did it. But if the Deck and Machine price hikes (45%) are anything to go by, the Frame was supposed to be something like $750.
$750
it could’ve been $750
I miss the time when you could just buy things.
The prices are about what I expected. Could be worse. What annoys me a little bit is that in addition to being another lottery for an opportunity to buy, you can only choose one model ahead of time. I would probably buy the 1TB model if I couldn’t get the smaller one. But I don’t think I’m going to volunteer for the large model and give up my chance to buy the cheaper one. Might ask my nephew to put in a 1TB reservation…
From the news I heard, the expected price was around $1,500. I was pleasantly surprised.
It’s inconvenient but understandable considering how vulnerable Valve hardware is to scalping and money laundering right now.
That explains why they have the lottery, but I don’t understand why they don’t have an “any model” list. They did for the Steam Machine.
I fully expected $1600 US, so I’m pretty happy with where they ended up personally
It’s very disappointing that you don’t even get a charging cable for 1k+ 😾
Kinda. On the other hand, I have so many USB-C chargers by now that it would probably have stayed inside the box anyway.
I dunno, I already have a spare from a Steam Deck dock I barely use. Takes $29 off the price.
Let’s fucking goooo!!!
Here’s me hoping Linux PCVR is sorted out by the time I can get my hands on one.
What’s the issue with it?
Streaming from a Linux PC wasn’t working yet when LTT tested it on August 24th.
When you actually receive one — in a acouple of months — it’ll work.
I don’t think you’re in any position to guarantee that, and people should not spend $1,000+ on a feature that does not yet exist.
Valve is running the first lottery on Sep. 17 and giving selectees 72 hours to purchase. They tend to ship out hardware pretty fast after that. I think I got my Steam Controller within 5 days of purchase.
I find that hard to believe. I’ve been able to stream just fine from Steam to a Quest 2 for months. It’s worked for years if you include using ALVR.
Steam Frame has its own custom streaming hardware and drivers. Other types of VR-streaming working for other VR headsets isn’t necessarily relevant. I’m sure they’ll get it to work soon though, maybe even at launch.
On the Frame itself, yes. On the PC side it’s encoding and sending an audio/video stream and receiving inputs from the VR device over a network. They have implementations for other devices, so it stands to reason that they’d have an implementation for their own device. Maybe there are some kinks to work out (nvidia hardware, Wayland implementation, etc. ), but I’m sceptical that it “doesn’t work”. Especially since game journalism is full of hyperbole.
Then again, maybe I’ll have an expensive paper weight on my desk for a while, but hopefully not! 😆
Oh shit! That would be a deal breaker for me.
Through Steam? Hmmm…
I don’t know if that’s a definite, vs not being able to stream from a steam machine specifically. You can already stream from linux pcs to other headsets, so I think the limitation is gamemode right now.
As of today on Linux SteamVR:
- desktop preview does not work on Wayland DEs
- dropped frames cause reprojection errors causing visual stutters
- dropped frames cause “vsync_to_photon” timing errors thus causing input lag/drunken vision
- exiting any VR game crashes SteamVR Dashboard and sometimes desktop Steam UI too
- SteamVR sometimes launches legacy UI with missing features
- SteamVR frequently fails to launch
- SteamVR does a partial “silent launch” - no desktop confirmation of VR running, but you see image inside of a headset
- SteamVR can’t automatically switch audio device to headset speakers, nor supports audio mirroring
Issues which don’t apply to Steam Frame but are still technically issues on legacy “Linux supported” headsets:
- Base Station power management does not work (Vive 1.0/Index 2.0)
- Room preview/cameras do not work
- Volume buttons do not work (HTC Vive Pro)
And probably many more issues I’m missing
Oof. That’s a pretty big no from me, dawg.
Thank you!
May I ask, is this from your own experience or other sources?
USB 2.0 is sort of disappointing, though realistically, how often will I actually be transferring files to this device?
I guess I can do some testing of this myself right now with my phone, but I’ll ask for anyone who is familiar: should I expect local file transfers over SSH via Wi-Fi to be faster than local file transfers via USB 2.0 anyway?
EDIT: Apparently, you can’t just plug the Frame into a computer and have it show up as a mass storage device. It doesn’t work like plugging a phone into a computer; it works like plugging a computer into a computer. So the best options for local file transfer are probably:
- SFTP, KDE Connect, Local Send, Syncthing, etc. via Wi-Fi
- inserting a Micro SD card or USB C flash drive into a computer, transferring files to it, removing it, inserting it into the Frame, transferring the files to the Frame
This is strange, this post shows up for me through API access, but won’t show up for me when viewing this community online. There’s a duplicate post from someone else that does show up everywhere, and is getting more upvotes, although this post is actually older.
Not sure what’s going on.
I think it’s because Lemmy tries to merge the posts. When I look on Sopuli, I can initially only see the duplicate post, but when extending it it shows mine as a “cross post”.
When did Lemmy start merging posts?
It’s just a visual thing on the default UI, but I think it has been there for a couple months at least.
Weird, i do not use the web interface much, but I have never seen that.
I made the other post, and for me it shows it was posted 5-6 minutes earlier. I didn’t see this one when I posted it.
Maybe just something with federating between sopuli.xyz and pawb.social / midwest.social?
Edit: Both posts show in my app (Boost)
This comment also doesn’t show up on the pawb post yet, so probably midwest <-> pawb federation.
