You’d be cut off from most of the web best-case, potentially even the entire web worst-case if this moves up the chain to the ISP level and ISPs start requiring trusted OSes like Android, iOS, Windows, or macOS to even access the web, at which point the entire global web becomes an NK-style intranet, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some legislators are actively considering taking it that far.
At some point it could get to that, but even Chineae residents find a way out of being blocked. If it gets totally restricted then maybe we go to a peer mesh net and bypass ISPs.
Signal jammers can directly knock that out, or a hostile government can block meshnets through the legal back door by regulating them out of existence.
Most of the web is trash nowadays anyway. We should all go back to Gopher and Finger, or other similar modern implementations of the same ideas like Gemini, Spartan, and Titan. Those are small enough to easily roll out over mesh networks that can’t be easily governed.
Gopher runs on top of the internet, so that solves nothing. Finger is… more or less useless in this context.
You would need a whole new physical layer, and maybe replacement for the TCP and IP protocols. The later is probably doable, the former will struggle unless/until there are lots of users with the new hardware.
No but stops your ID being required to login to your own computer
You’d be cut off from most of the web best-case, potentially even the entire web worst-case if this moves up the chain to the ISP level and ISPs start requiring
trustedOSes like Android, iOS, Windows, or macOS to even access the web, at which point the entire global web becomes an NK-style intranet, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some legislators are actively considering taking it that far.If it gets like that them I think everyone moves to some darkweb or something
Or at that point we move to the forest and start dissociating from society
Way ahead of ya there.
What’s stopping the dark web from being blocked?
At some point it could get to that, but even Chineae residents find a way out of being blocked. If it gets totally restricted then maybe we go to a peer mesh net and bypass ISPs.
Now is the time to set one up. If we wait until the blocks come, it will be too late.
There are people using meshtastic already. But yeah it needs a push to become mainstream
Signal jammers can directly knock that out, or a hostile government can block meshnets through the legal back door by regulating them out of existence.
How will you order your meshtastic radio if you cannot access the web, and how long will it be before it’s made illegal anyway?
No one will know about the disappearances because the news comes from the cloud companies. Like it never happened.
I swear some of you are still out to brunch, still think that we’re not all seen as disposable prisoners
Stores, friends, old fashioned mail order catalogs
This is probably a bad take but like, good?
Most of the web is trash nowadays anyway. We should all go back to Gopher and Finger, or other similar modern implementations of the same ideas like Gemini, Spartan, and Titan. Those are small enough to easily roll out over mesh networks that can’t be easily governed.
Http is dead. Long live the internet.
Gopher runs on top of the internet, so that solves nothing. Finger is… more or less useless in this context.
You would need a whole new physical layer, and maybe replacement for the TCP and IP protocols. The later is probably doable, the former will struggle unless/until there are lots of users with the new hardware.