• vermaterc ( vermaterc@lemmy.ml ) OP
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    10 days ago

    I mean: I’ll probably get downvoted because we are on Lemmy and the title contains “vibecoding” in it, but holy s**t, are we just getting a viable Photoshop alternative for linux 🤣

  • Reposting my relevant comment from yesterday on the Opensource board:

    My opinion: this is pointless

    LLMs are stochastic regurgitators, but software can already be copy/pasted without cost.

    Why should we be interested in an LLM clone of photoshop when there are already clones of photoshop (e.g. https://photopea.com/)?

    If I want to use photoshop (or something like it), then I’ll use photoshop (or something like it: i.e. photopea).

    There’s literally no point in favour of using the LLM copy, it’s going to have less support and less security (since its training data will have also included prompt injection attacks).

    It’s just more of the same, but worse. Even for the sake of argument: if it wasn’t worse, it’d still be more of the same.

    I’m not interested in more of the same, I’m interested in things made by people that push the boundaries of what’s possible: (e.g. graphite).

    • Nomecks ( Nomecks@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Why should I use software from anybody if I can just have an LLM generate what I want? I don’t have to worry about licensing, software becoming paid, getting enshittified or getting abandoned. I can have my own walled garden of my own apps.

      • The assumption of “just generate it” is doing a lot of work. There’s a lot of assumptions that an LLM produced program will have the same guarantees that a closed source program has. You don’t know about licensing because most courts haven’t decided on it yet. The enshittification would most likely happen on the LLM provider end. You also wouldn’t get the benefit of other people’s eyes on the software. You’re getting none of the benefits of open source with the consequences of closed source.

    • Sina ( Sina@beehaw.org ) 
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      You do realize that Photopea is JS running in your browser right, aka it’s slow.

      Though I have to admit I’m way more interested in LR clones that are actually good clones.

      • You do realize that Photopea is JS running in your browser right, aka it’s slow.

        Yes I realise it’s running in a browser.

        No it’s not slow.

        It’s running 5mb of web assembly, so unless running regular photoshop is using more than 50% of your CPU, you’re not going to notice any slowdowns.

        The only time you’re going to notice a slow down is if the thing you’re doing would already be annoying slow in photoshop (e.g. opening >500mb non-raw files, in which case it being slow in a browser wouldn’t matter since you’d be better off processing the files outside of photoshop anyway).

  • Jessica ( SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Fuck Adobe, obvs. But I wonder how this is going to affect small time devs, who are trying to carve out a living by working on a passion project.

    Open source alternatives to paid apps will always exist, but require skill and effort to create. Some guy prompting AI to make a knockoff BetterTouchTool doesn’t sit quite right.

    • vermaterc ( vermaterc@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      There is a law in software engineering called “ninety-ninety rule”

      The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of development time; the remaining 10% accounts for the other 90%.

      which can be interpreted as “final touches are the most difficult”.

      I think it is also true for vibecoding. As seen in a video I’ve posted, although the app works, there are some small faults yet to be fixed. And as seen in commit history of PhotoCraft - the work isn’t finished, it currently intensifies

      • Jessica ( SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        For how many users will the free unfinished or unpolished software be enough? If developers income’s are ripped off by some cat interacting with Claude, then software development outside of the commercial space becomes available only to those who are willing to do so at the expense of their own time.