“He could have done that, but it didn’t happen. Yes, the question probably wasn’t pressing at the time because there was no full-scale invasion.
“But our territories were occupied.”
of course, we all know what Trump did do: he tried to extort Zalenskyy for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding relief funding that the US Congress had already authorized to send to Ukraine. He was even impeached over it.
Inb4 the lemmygrad.ml pro-Putin brigade that will tell everyone how Ukraine should roll over and die and the U.S. is nothing but a warmonger.
I’m sure Trump will deliver an end to the war in Ukraine juuust as soon as he comes through with Infrastructure Week.
Is crazy. Putin’s behavior is not marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator. He is heavy into nationalism and racism to maintain his power.
I guess Trump really doesn’t want Putin to release that tape of him getting pissed on by a stripper.
I never did buy the whole pee tape thing. Trump shrugged off publicly saying how he sexually abused women just before getting elected president. There’s no level of shame that can affect someone with no conscience.
To me it’s much simpler - the Russians own his ass, literally. They bailed him out when he was going bankrupt in the '80s, and he’s been beholden to them ever since.
wow, i’d actually forgotten about the pee tape thing since it happened 400 years ago(in pandemic years, lol). I’m not sure that I ever believed it for any other reason than simply because it sounded like some petty bullshit he would do-- hire hookers to pee on him in a bed once used by Obama. Or, not even on him, but just on the empty bed himself while he watched because he is just so very petty. And the Russians would never bother with such a tape because it would have become worthless the instant the world knew that neither would Trump be ashamed of such a tape becoming public nor would the world be shocked by it. Hardly “kompromat” when everyone already knows what a scumbag the guy is.
so, is the tape real? maybe, but I just don’t care.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
Well, that explains a lot.
Putin’s behavior [isn’t] marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator. He is heavy into nationalism and racism to maintain his power.
Precisely. It makes no sense at all really
People give me shit on this but the more I look at their behavior over the decades, I have trouble recognizing them as anything but reactionary elements of a revolution at best and genuine far right ideology at worst. They constantly engage in idolization, power worship, subjugation of outside groups for the in-group, racism, nationalism, and all that other fun stuff. They can wave flags around as much as they like but aesthetics are just that, aesthetics
I very much agree with you. “Tankie” is a slur for a reason; they’re not rational radicals, they’re fascist-adjacent authoritarians who prefer a different aesthetic
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English3•11 months ago
Putin’s behavior is not marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator.
This. I can’t fathom why a community of self-described Marxists would have any love for the man. Marxism is about empowering the working class. The only person Putin empowers is himself.
LOL. That whole “pissed on by a stripper” thing turned out to be a total fabrication just like the Russia collusion accusations were.
well, they sound awful, like a pack of bullies.
The only people who benefit from continuing the war are those selling the armor: the captialists.
The lives of everyday Ukrainians will be better with a swift end to this tragedy. Once it’s over, the can rebuild their communities and get back to life.
and the Ukrainians who survived the invasion.
You seem to hate capitalists so much, you forget the freedom of the pressed people stricken by illegal invasion of their lands. Free yourself from hate and open your eyes. Your dogma limits you.
Yikes! I dunno about that. Sooner the war ends the better and protracted fighting kills Ukrainians and their communities. Strange there’s a counter-point to this.
obviously, a sooner end would be better, but that’s not going to happen until Russia ends its illegal invasion and leaves Ukraine. It’s purely up to Russia to leave, and nobody but Russia is to blame for drawing out this war by refusing to end their illegal invasion.
So, Russia needs to fuck off and leave. Until they do, it’s 100% their fault for every bad thing that happens as a consequence of their illegal invasion.
fighting kills Ukrainians and their communities
more Russians than Ukrainians, and the Ukranians will gladly die for their freedom from fascist Russian invasion. As they should.
Russia has a capitalist class too. Maybe we have a misunderstanding over who I am talking about when I say capitalists.
ok… maybe we do. I’m not a capitalist, since you didn’t bother to ask, and it doesn’t have ANY beating on this conversation. The economic system of a nation has zero bearing on whether it’s right or wrong to invade another sovereign nation fo the purpose of taking it over. THAT is what Russia is doing to Ukraine (and both are capitalist, btw). That’s what Russia is wrong and should be resisted.
The quickest way for Ukraine to end the war would be to simply abandon their country. Are you suggesting that’s what they do or do you acknowledge that when a foreign country steps foot on your soul with weapons and kills your people that defending that land is a reasonable course of action?
Are you asking me if land is more important than lives? The answer is lives everytime.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English11•11 months ago
If you give up your home to a conqueror and go elsewhere, he will soon appear again and take your new home from you as well.
Conquerors must be stopped. It is the only way to deal with them.
I don’t think the people of Donetsk will flee. They’ll probably just pay taxes to Putin rather than Zelensky.
When the Romans conquered Europe, they left the locals in power and setup taxes.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English9•11 months ago
These aren’t professional Roman legionaries. From what I’ve heard, Russian troops routinely murder, rape, and steal from civilians.
And Russia is not Rome. Russia is an oppressive dictatorship led by a homicidal madman who craves power and uses his people as cannon fodder without a second thought. If he conquers your town, he’ll force you to fight and die to conquer the next town.
The new boss is not the same as the old boss, and that is why the Ukrainian people are fighting so hard to stop him.
You are twisting my words. I never asked that question in any way. My question was very clear: do you seriously believe that the best course of action when invaded by a hostile country is to flee and give them whatever they want since that would end the conflict as soon as possible? Please do not twist my words again to dodge the question.
We seen to disagree here. believe the best thing a leader can do when invaded is protect the lives of as many people who the leader is responsible for as possible.
And would you not agree that the easiest way to do that is to run away without fighting?
Did he reply to Trump like this?
or like this
How the f# people can give 2 seconds of credit to this douche?! How Ukrainians could sacrifice their life for this sucker?!
If he had 5% of honor, he would abdicate and stop sacrificing Ukrainians lives!
Warmongers who claim that the usa is not involved in this war get rekt. This is evidence that usa is involved.
What?
Who is saying the US is not involved? A significant chunk of the industrialized nations are involved. The US is providing material aid to Ukraine and I haven’t seen people being shy about saying that.
He’d probably have him assassinated. Dude is crazy,