This honestly sucks. Other subs reached out to their members to get feedback. Why is it that the mods simply decide what to do and make the rest of us no longer have a permanent place for discussions, memes, and everything PoE? This site is hardly a replacement, as not only does the UI suck but the number of participants is almost non-existent.
Protesting is meant to cause friction and upset people. If no one was bothered when people protested it wouldn’t be doing it’s job.
Shutting the subreddit down was meant to disrupt you.
Permanently? Screwing the community that the mods are supposed to represent? Because a company wants to charge for the IP it owns?
I know what a protest is. This is more like a bunch of power-hungry children with no foresight crying about something they don’t like with no regard for the masses.
I speak not as a normal member of the PoE community or a mod, but it is my understanding that moderators volunteer their time and energy to the communities they handle. Should reddit be making decisions that affect a moderator’s ability to do what they need to efficiently and effectively, it is understandable that some may decide to shut down without consulting the users. You seem to be directing anger at the mods when your outrage should be directed more at reddit itself. PoE is but one of many subs that will be negatively impacted with the changes reddit will implement. A lot of information will be lost with people abandoning the platform for alternatives. It may be something you’ll need to accept as users and moderators flee.
So you think that a group of people that represent thousands should simply make decisions without consulting the community they represent? This isn’t any different from politicians creating laws to make their own lives easier, while basically ignoring the constituents. If they no longer have the time to volunteer due to the changes, others will step up and eventually find ways to become more efficient. This isn’t affecting reddit’s revenue per the news. The only ones suffering are the masses currently.
I have zero issues with a company increasing the cost to access their IP.
Represent?
Were they ever elected by the subs for the position? Were they working for us? Did they ever speak for us?
You seem to be mistaking a internet forum for a… democratic government, I guess?
Mods were just applying a set of rules to maintain order and a (minimum) of civility. It was up to reddit to maintain communities if they really wanted, and they simply gave everyone the finger.
You might want to read more about the whole afair, as the fact that all the blackouts seem to be “just a nuisance” made up by mods, and you had to come here to complain show that you did not really understand it.
No, I’m not equivocating this with political responsibility. I’m neutral, not positive, on moderators making these sorts of decisions themselves, but I am presenting context as to why it is understandable they make that decision, and how your upsetedness seems misdirected. This isn’t just about cost either. Many moderators and users don’t only use 3p to skirt ads or avoid cost. It also provides ease of use and helpful tools, especially in instances of volunteering to moderate subs with “thousands”.
People will step up, if the current moderators cannot find ways to deal with it. Their actions were not at all understandable. Just because a job is made harder doesn’t mean you say “fuck it all, we’re gonna make our own casino with blackjack and hookers.”
Permanently?
It’s been 2 days.
reddit owns only the access to content. but the content is owned by the users.
You could have an entirely open and free api but if theres no content, whats the point
Why do you think lemmy is hardly a replacement?
lemmy and its unintuitive, ugly UI is basically a scuffed reddit at home.
The larger problems aren’t really lemmy either. Here’s a list of larger issues: -Moderators took it upon themselves to make an executive decision without consulting the sub members, which basically IS the community itself. -There was no proper transition plan, which helped contribute to this barren wasteland that you see. Maybe the mods are inexperienced in moving from one thing to another, but a single sticky post is NOT a sufficient form of information let alone an agreed upon plan. -All of our posts, interactions with each other, comments from GGG, etc. are all on reddit. There’s history there, and it means something to many of us. Clicking on a shit link to try to browse the past isn’t the same thing; it is an absurdly detached form of “legacy.”
I think everything is up in the air for now and we will see what happens.
Many users have moved on to various Lemmy instances or kbin, and various subs have different plans. Some have also moved, so PoE is not alone in it.
As of now I know a handful of subs including some large ones like r/videos plan to be permanently private. Some others have made new versions on the Federated networks and are planning on continuing to use them. Or will move back to reddit.
I expect the reddit admins will start to replace the mods of any private sub with whatever power hungry admin-aligned person they can find. Probably handing over power to a power-mod that already has all the largest subs.
You think lemmy is hardly a replacement? Why?
You are not representing the majority of the community. The user don’t want to participate in the protest and you know that. Otherwise you would have opened a poll for an indefinite blackout.
The sub would have shut down anyways, all the major subs did.
It’s a coordinated power play by the mods to get more power, hence why all the subs point to discords and other channels/forums where the mods have full power and don’t have to answer to anyone. Mods in general are trying to get away from the regulation of the platform to get even more power from themselves.
The reason for this is that reddit wants to monetize further as a private social media, and the mods want a slice of that cake (or the whole cake).