There is currently petition citizen initiative underway to urge the European Commission to connect all capitals of the EU with high-speed rail.
I’ve already signed it, are you joining ?
https://europa.eu/citizens-initiative/select-language?destination=/initiatives/details/2023/000004
Edit: It’s not a petition, it’s a citizen initiative.
- Zeerooth ( @zeerooth@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) English5•1 year ago
Signed it!
Poor Finland and Ireland though, I don’t think they’re getting HSR comnections anytime soon
- mondoman712 ( @mondoman712@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
There’s been talk of a tunnel between Tallinn and Helsinki for a while, which could connect up to Rail Baltica.
- Zeerooth ( @zeerooth@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) English1•1 year ago
That’s pretty sweet, I wish I could visit my friend in Finland by just hopping on a train, though I wonder if there’s ever going to be enough demand and possible benefits to justify building such a big undersea tunnel.
- vldnl ( @vldnl@feddit.dk ) English2•1 year ago
Maybe not high speed, but you could theoretically run a train line from Helsinki to Talinn and Stockholm. In Southern Denmark you could take the train from Rødby to Puttgarden, across the narrow stretch of water that separates Denmark and Germany. The train would just roll aboard the ferry, and then exit at the other end. As far as I know, that line has been closed down temporarily, and will run through the tunnel they’re building, when it opens up again.
More realistically, you could work to improve the train-ferry connections. The train should take you all the way down to where you board the ferry, there shouldn’t be long waits when you switch from one mode to the other and it should be seamless to purchase a ticket from Helsinki to Berlin, even if part of the trip is on a ferry.
Of course not as fast as traveling over land, but it makes more sense considering the geography, and I personally think it should count as a train connection, if the ferry is included in the train ticket.
Ireland is probably a bit more tricky.
- Zeerooth ( @zeerooth@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) English3•1 year ago
Train ferries a bit logistical hassle through and are pretty slow and costly afaik. Another person linked a proposal for an undersea tunnel between Estonia and Finland which would solve that problem, but connecting to Sweden without a ferry is still tough, unless they decide to invest into a similar project or construct a high-speed all the way around the Baltic Sea through northern Scandinavia which is probably not really feasible.
- acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 year ago
Neither are the southeast Balkan countries (GR, BG, RO), or the Mediterannean island ones (MT, CY).
- Zeerooth ( @zeerooth@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) English1•1 year ago
Running a line through Hungary-Romania-Bulgaria-Greece should relatively be much easier though
- acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) English0•1 year ago
In theory yes, but:
- Greece is not ready to handle HSR.
- Bulgarian and Romanian accession to Schengen is still contentious, so what’s the point of HSR if you have to stop for passport checks?
- Nobody is going to give Orban’s Hungary big infrastructure bucks.
EU politics is so much fun! :)
- DraagDunk ( @DraagDunk@feddit.dk ) English3•1 year ago
Signed! My odometer cannot wait
- acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) English2•1 year ago
I too want to travel from Dublin to La Valletta to Nicosia by high speed rail.
- Starya68 ( @Starya68@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
I’d love to sign it, but it insists I identify myself with the Dutch DigiD app and then it gives me an error. Maybe that’s why it’s not been signed by a lot of people. It’s impossible.
That’s weird. Yesterday I signed it using my DigiD.
I do know that DigiD is spewing errors left and right. Yesterday I tried to login into DUO and it took me like 30 minutes.
My only piece of advice is, try again later unfortunately… 😞
- Snowcap7567 ( @Snowcap7567@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
You can sign without digital ID by providing name and passport number. That’s how I did it just some moments ago.
- MaximumFluff ( @MaximumFluff@lemmy.sdf.org ) English2•1 year ago
Wouldn’t really benefit from this living in Helsinki, but this would be an amazing thing nonetheless
- bob_lemon ( @bob_lemon@feddit.de ) English2•1 year ago
Undersea tunnel to Tallinn let’s go!
Yeah exactly!
I’m curious to see how much impact it will have on flying and international car traffic.
- kartonrealista ( @kartonrealista@lemmy.world ) English2•1 year ago
Already signed it a while ago, although it’s sad only 48 people from Poland signed as of today
That’s definitely sad :(
- median_user ( @median_user@lemmy.one ) English1•1 year ago
If you’re interested in EU cross-border rail connections, I highly recommend following Jon Worth on Mastodon. He spends a lot of time actually testing the various border routes (and has some pretty strong opinions on them).
- PM_ME_FLUFFY_SHIBES ( @PM_ME_FLUFFY_SHIBES@lemmy.world ) English1•1 year ago
What about the different railway widths?
From what a quick Google search / Wikipedia hunt showed me is that most of the EU (with the exception of Russia and Finland) are already running on “standard-gauge railway” for their high-speed rail
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-gauge_railway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_gauge_in_Europe