I’ve been so used to judging a post just by its popularity on reddit, but it’s actually so much more useful to have an idea of the downvote ratio. I’m glad we have that here.
It was a scandal when it disappeared from YouTube, but I didn’t realize it was missing from Reddit too for much longer!
at least Reddit showed the upvote - downvote balance, YouTube only shows upvotes, which is a completely useless number.
Looking at you, beehaw.org
YT doesn’t want your poor little feelings to be hurt.
hm. The instance I’m on, lemmy.one, doesn’t have a downvote button or a ratio. Can each server owner configure it to remove that? Maybe I should switch instances! Is there an easy way to export all of my communities and migrate to lemmy.ml?
Yes, servers can disable downvotes. Beehaw does that, for instance. I’m on lemmy.world which allows both. I prefer both because I think it helps silence bad faith participation with less active moderation, but I respect that some places don’t want it.
It also enables bad faith participation such as down-vote brigading.
- BrooklynMan ( @BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
while that’s true, people will always find a way to be jerks. if people can’t be jerks with a downvote, they’ll express their jerkitude verbally, which is certainly worse. i just wish we could move beyond the point where a downvote (or a bunch) was enough to emotionally devastate a person-- or where people feel the need to do that to others.
this is such a nice place now, but, then again, so was reddit in the beginning.
I’ve elected to hide upvotes in settings, initially as an experiment that stuck because I really didn’t feel like I was missing anything without the counters short of prejudging what I was about to read. The area in the center of the Venn diagram of content that’s relevant to me and content that’s massively upvoted is, well, nonzero. But I’m not exactly going about my life using nonzero chances as my walking stick.
Yeah, I’m definitely on the fence about it. I agree about the bad faith participation with downvote brigading, but I also feel that having downvotes is, overall, a good way to gauge community agreement.
I think what I would like the most is a visible upvote/downvote percentage ratio. That way you could see not only the net upvotes - downvotes like on reddit, but the actual participation by the community.
You can see it by hovering over the counter and looking at the tooltip, but yeah having both upvotes and downvotes prominently displayed could be nice as well.
Yes, Lemmy instances can remove the downvote button if they desire
Curious choice indeed, but yeah, instance owners can configure or code whatever they want!
I didn’t find a way to quickly transfer an account between instances like on Mastodon though
Everyone feel free to downvote me so you can see it in action
B-b-but… Your karm- Oh wait. Never mind.
I will literally be so upset if lemmy incorporates a karma feature. Such a useless stat that so many people obsessed over.
Quick, everybody upvote this guy! Positive bullying!
Idk about anyone else, but the icons are completely invisible on my end. I can hit them and they appear though, sometimes.
Added a cheeky down vote for you 😉
Same, first positive thing I noticed. This really feels like Reddit in the beginning–I like it!
its probably my favorite feature of lemmy/kbin
personal opinion: not having downvote is the same as a participation trophy… pointless and hurts the original idea of “upvoting” (or the winner trrophy) just because a lot of people cannot handle the reality of the world… just sad :(
It’s something that can be configured, at least at the server level, which is cool.
I’m running my own personal instance, and I’m keeping downvotes enabled. It’s something that I’d really like to see, personally, but I have absolutely no judgement or concern for instances that choose to disable downvoting.
I do wonder if that’s something that can be managed at the community level, though. I can definitely imagine some communities opting to disable downvoting, if their server admin(s) allowed it.
What I really hope to see is some client-side algorithms that can let you track who vote-voted-for-what. This way, you (your client) could ignore downvotes if you detect brigading or rings and it could boost a particular post if it happened to be upvoted by a friend of yours.
