This post should NOT be taken as some kind of insult towards the mods of the previous subreddit, nor should it be seen as some justification for the dumb crap that Reddit is trying to pull with their API. I am totally against Reddit trying to price gouge people who make their site better.

However, I made a post on the thread that announced the indefinite lockdown that people would not switch sites and ultimately it would harm the community because 75-80% of people wouldn’t switch, and it seems my number was really wrong. It is more like 95%+. I guess I am making this thread to ask if it is worth fracturing the main place for the PoE community to gather (for better or worse)? I think it is worth a legitimate discussion, because I hate the idea that the PoE community is the one getting harmed because of Reddit’s poor decision making. Maybe Reddit will change their tune and this won’t matter, but if they’re not are we just going to stay away from there forever? Unless this site (which is out of control of the mods here) gets massive upgrades then I just don’t ever see it being used at all.

Feel free to give your thoughts and I hope that my post comes across as genuine.

  • multiplicitypoe ( multiplicitypoe@pathofexile-discuss.com ) MEnglish
    8·
    3 years ago

    Hiya,

    We subreddit mods don’t want the community harmed either. I’m preparing a post aimed at addressing feedback we’ve gotten from the community and discussing our plan and how we’ll be getting your thoughts on that plan as well. I need to draft it up and run it by the rest of the mods for review, so expect it tomorrow at the earliest.

    If you want to read some personal thoughts on Discord (not an official plan) I wrote about the blackout, check in the PoE discord server (discord.gg/pathofexile) starting here and going a few pages below that as well

    • Multi
  • lp0101 ( lp0101@lemmy.world ) English
    19·
    3 years ago

    Honestly, this is a pretty slow time for PoE content too. We’re mid-league, and we just got some cinematic PoE2 trailers without much substance to them. People who really want to discuss PoE will slowly filter their way into Lemmy over the next couple of months, and I’m sure there will be a spike in activity when the next league drops.

    I would rather mods stick to their guns. Short term is may be messy, but I think it’s best for the longterm health of the community to drop Reddit.

  • d3ceived ( d3ceived@lemmy.world ) English
    9·
    3 years ago

    Give Lemmy a chance to surge when the next league hype starts. There’s a lot to be gained; switching from Reddit to Lemmy would a boon to the community the way the wiki migration from Fandom to community-run was.

    • Skray ( Skray@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
      8·
      3 years ago

      The larger Lemmy instances like Lemmy.world and Beehaw are decently active. This instance is discoverable from them, but there are only a small handful of subscribers from each, PoE is too niche for non-PoE players.

      This instance could grow with some work though. There’s nothing on reddit that ties PoE players to it outside of just historical momentum.

      I’m not tied to reddit personally, but will obviously go wherever the activity is. I do find the growth of the federated social media to be fascinating though, and think it’s a good alternative to reddit.

  • pixxelkick ( pixxelkick@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    7·
    3 years ago

    Honestly speaking there have been a multitude of posters on the Discord that keep coming in going “Is the subreddit private? I dont get it” and they didnt even read the message you get when you visit /r/pathofexile

    So I mostly chalk it up to “people cant read” tbh

  • Generic ( Generic@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    6·
    3 years ago

    I’ll be honest, so far the switch seems much more seamless than I expected. With how sedentary social media and the web generally have become, I’d have expected a much, MUCH slower transition, to the tune of maybe a person or two joining per day, with somewhere around 50 joining initially… And that’s not even mentioning like others have said that it’s already a pretty dead time in the ebb and flow of PoE communication. Given all the circumstances, I think what we currently have is about on track with what could be expected early on. It’s not like the reddit userbase didn’t generally rely on comparatively few active users to provide content to lurk in.

  • esc ( esc@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    2·
    3 years ago

    Some reddit apps don’t show the message on the poe subreddit that links to this site (for example RIF, it just shows an empty page).

    A lot of people are not that invested in poe or reddit that they would bother with moving to another platform, instead they’ll just stop interacting with the community and move on to something else. Getting people to move to another platform is always a big ask.

    I’m still kinda surprised by how quiet this place has been. I think this site works just fine.

        • multiplicitypoe ( multiplicitypoe@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
          4·
          3 years ago

          I was curious if most are bots too and found some interesting data

          Looking at the list of users by domain

          ubuntu$ users | awk -F'/' '{print $3}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr
   1563 lemmy.world
   1320 beehaw.org
    172 sh.itjust.works
    164 pathofexile-discuss.com
    149 lemmy.ml
    103 discuss.tchncs.de
     20 lemmy.nz
< censored results below 20 to protect privacy on small instances >
``
It seems most people have main accounts elsewhere. Not sure why someone would try making bot accounts elsewhere to then link them here and...not post? 🤷‍♂️
        • DunklerTurm ( DunklerTurm@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
          4·
          3 years ago

          Not sure, if people are shy, of if there’s just nothing to post about right now. As others already stated, it’s mid league and usually there are some item showcases and memes on reddit right now.

          Furthermore, I could think of most of the registrations would be people who are informed about the blackout of Reddit and think, that it’s a good step to go for a new platform, but don’t necessarily want to post stuff about PoE right now. The majority will likely just lurk around Reddit and see, how the situation develops.

          Because why register a new account on a new platform, if the subreddit is back during the next league start? Everything about the current situation is inconvenient in some way and people usually avoid inconvenience until it’s necessary for them to change something (i.e. being able to do new-league-shitposts :P).

  • moglis ( moglis@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    2·
    3 years ago

    People rightly complained / didnt use the official reddit mobile app because it was bad. Some also continued using old.reddit because they didn’t like the new one. Honestly, this new thing, is bad. That’s the main reason for me. It’s not just a “don’t want to change” thing either. The UI is lacking compared to reddit. Also the forum view, is not good imo. Both old and new versions of reddit did it better.

    Also, that’s a me thing, but I don’t understand the layout of the page. On reddit you have a main account, 1 account to login and you can join different subs. Have all the relevant info on your front page. Here I only see the poe “sub”. Where’s the rest? I had my main page with new / relevant posts from all the subs I followed. Like an old man reads the newspaper for many different news, I had reddit and I can’t replicate that here. That’s the another deal breaker.

    Finally there’s so many personal account based stuff like saved posts, repositories of information, karma, replies and discussions that can’t be transfered here. It just can’t happen. There’s also a lot of usernames and people you met and talked over the years, now that is gone. And people with streamer names that’s gonna cause confusion.

    I get it that reddit fucked up and communities are not “moderatable” anymore but this is such a downgrade and the transition causes many problems, I just don’t see me happy using either at the end of the day.

  • zanics ( zanics@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    1·
    3 years ago

    I cant believe the mods shut down the communities central gathering place with genuine POE2 hype on the horizon and pushed us to a dead site that will absolutely not generate any hype whatsoever

    thanks guys guess ill just google the poe main website every day to get news updates

  • Nettle ( Nettle@pathofexile-discuss.com ) English
    1·
    3 years ago

    I just made an account here in case I ever need to use it. I was hoping that settings would allow me to change some things to make this site look better (like smaller text!) but all I was able to really do is switch from light mode to dark mode. It doesn’t feel like a great replacement just yet…