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 CodingAndCoffee   ( @CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world )  to You Should Know@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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YSK that kbin.social is now federating, adding hundreds of communities and ~26k more users content

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YSK that kbin.social is now federating, adding hundreds of communities and ~26k more users content

 CodingAndCoffee   ( @CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world )  to You Should Know@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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Because they don’t get listed by browse.feddit.de you’ll want to browse https://kbin.social/magazines to browse “magazines”, which is what they call communities

e.g. !RedditMigration@kbin.social

or directly, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration

Why YSK: Federation literally just synched up thanks to the tireless efforts by @ernest@kbin.social over the past few days.

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  •  AvaddonLFC ☄️ 🤘   ( @clueless_stoner@lemmy.world ) 
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    Awesome! Thanks for letting us know.

    Also, please do not forget to include a “Why YSK:” in your post’s body text.

    •  CodingAndCoffee   ( @CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world ) OP
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      done, thanks!

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        No worries! Happy fediversing :)

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    That is so exciting, all of us playing together in here is such a cool concept.

  •  JoeKrogan   ( @JoeKrogan@lemmy.world ) 
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    “Good news everyone”

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    Does this mean you are posting this on lemmy.world and I am reading it on kbin?

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      Haha yep, this community is hosted on lemmy.world! And you’re commenting from kbin. That’s so cool!

      •  UnshavedYak   ( @UnshavedYak@kbin.social ) 
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        Oh, i actually didn’t know Kbin (despite these posts lol) was being seen from Lemmy. Iirc when i first saw Kbin a few days ago, Kbin could see Lemmy but Lemmy couldn’t see Kbin. Ie it’s like it was a partial federation.

        I’m curious on if that was accurate and if it was, what caused it in a technical sense. Given i’m a dev working on some ActivityPub stuff, i’m quite interested in it. Though i’ve not yet used the spec, clearly hah.

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          It was blocked by kbin having cloudflare DDoS protection enabled to reduce server load. I guess that blocks federation.

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            Hmm, surely there must be a way to whitelist other instances you want to federate with so they don’t get blocked by cloudflare…

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              I’m sure you can do that in cloudflare but it’d require whitelisting every Lemmy instance that you want to federate with on kbin’s end, which is a bit much.

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        Wow this is neat!

        How can I tell that a post is from another instance when browsing on Kbin? Just scanning the card for this thread, it isn’t apparent that it’s federated content.

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          If you have the top bar enabled, you can see it at the top on the right hand side.

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        It’s super cool! My mind is now blown!

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      Yup, exactly. Welcome to the fediverse!

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        Oh, wow, thanks! I love it that my first inter-fediverse communication was you welcoming me, too.

        I come in peace :)

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        Can we please call it literally anything else? I’m tired of “verses”.

        •  BaroqueInMind   ( @BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ) Banned
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          Removed by mod

          •  Teal   ( @Teal@kbin.social ) 
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            The backdoor of the internet.

            •  jclinares   ( @jclinares@kbin.social ) 
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              A very deep hole to go into

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            …which is now open for business!

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            It’s late where I am. I’m still laughing though, thank you very much :-D

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            Thank you, much better

          •  waterbottleonashelf   ( @waterbottleonashelf@kbin.social ) 
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            Welcome to the Federales

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          @iAmTheTot @CodingAndCoffee @livus @BreadDog It has been the Fediverse long before the other Verses came long.

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            Universe definitely came along first

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              @themz true.

    •  pieceofthepie :coffefied:   ( @pieceofthepie@social.n8e.dev ) 
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      @livus @CodingAndCoffee And now I’m replying to it from Mastodon!

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        @pieceofthepie@social.n8e.dev @livus@kbin.social @CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world Oh good, it’s working again! I’m commenting from Calckey.

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        wow interesting. Mastadon has a decent app in place too doesn’t it? That might be the best usage experience for me actually. Mastadon on the phone, Kbin on a desktop. Especially if it all links up.

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          @waterbottleonashelf @CodingAndCoffee @livus this is what I’m sticking to as a replacement to reddit/app. I’ve been mainly visiting #kbin on desktop but now that it’s federated, a lot of magazines/threads I follow are showing up in my Mastodon app. This #fediverse stuff is great!

        •  BarrelAgedBoredom   ( @BarrelAgedBoredom@beehaw.org ) 
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          So you’d be able to log in to a Lemmy account from mastodon? Like many of us here, I’m still wrapping my head around this fediverse stuff

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      Is looking at the username how you can tell where a post is coming from? I was so confused a while ago with posts saying “something something fellow Beehaw users!” and it was marked as (kbin.social) lol.

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        Yeah, that part is a little confusing. Because this is a link aggregation site, it’s currently set up to show the domain of whatever link is in the thread. But if it’s just a text post, because it’s being brought over here it self-reports that we’re looking at kbin.social.

        If you have the top bar enabled from settings you can see where you’re currently looking at the top right.

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        I’m still trying to work that out too.

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      @livus @CodingAndCoffee and I’m reading this on mastodon!

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        Amazing!

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        I was trying to do this on Monday and couldn’t, so I thought it wasn’t possible. But now, here we are, and here it is!

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    Just started adding subscriptions to kbin magazines and I think it’s starting to sink in that there is actually a decent-sized community growing here with a LOT more potential. The FediVerse being decentralized makes things feel a bit empty at first as it is now, but once you start hooking up to other platforms’ content it immediately feels twice as big. The trick over time will be cross-platform development efforts that make things look and feel more seamless.

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      Certainly in this case, because of how how much traffic kbin.social was getting and how long it was running unfederated.

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    Testing replying from kbin.social

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      Yup, it’s federating successfully.

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        Thank you!

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    So I’m looking for a magazine that I know is on kbin, that I want to subscribe from here. I’ve tried typing in the magazine name in the address bar (lemmy.world/c/Utah@kbin.social), I’ve tried searching in the “communities” search, and I’m just not finding it and getting errors. Direct linking works, but I then I can only subscribe if I have an account on kbin. Help?

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      1. paste the full target url in search from lemmy, e.g. https://kbin.social/m/Utah
      2. now it’s available at !Utah@kbin.social
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        Ah ha, I was trying to do the short url (!utah@kbin.social), and that wasn’t working. Thanks!

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          I was doing the same thing! This is awesome. Thank you CodingAndCoffee!

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        kbin currently has a bug with the !Utah@kbin.social syntax. Your link becomes https://kbin.social/c/Utah@kbin.social, which isn’t valid (should be https://kbin.social/m/Utah). It’s a little weird because while the c/ part is what we’d expect if it was a Lemmy sub, it still shouldn’t be repeating the domain. I’m sure that’ll be fixed shortly, though. Maybe I’ll go dig into the code myself.

        At any rate, the @Utah@kbin.social syntax should work in kbin. I’m unclear if it works for Lemmy. Here’s a link so you can try it: @Utah

        EDIT: filed https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/199

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        Other Fediverse systems use the syntax @Utah@kbin.social.

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    Seeing lemmy posts on kbin this morning has me so excited. I don’t even know how the R site can even compete with the fediverse at this rate

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    @CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world replying to myself from mastodon!

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      How…? I think my head just exploded. 🤯

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        What is a reddit thread if not a root tweet with a bunch of replies (and replies to the replies) formatted in a way that you see the organization of the replies?

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          I like this idea and the Mastedon app seems much faster to post… that’s really my only wish list item from lemmy right now. I’m figuring that’s a temporary imbalance of increase activity and server bandwidth/speed? I understand we are decentralized but so is Mastodon and at least my instance is very smooth and fast.

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            I can’t speak to Lemmy’s implementation (I refuse to go near lemmy on account of the maintainers “politics”), but there’s nothing fundamental about threading that should make posting slower.

            Loading threads here is… different… work than loading your feed in mastodon, it’s possibly slower, but posting is from a theoretical standpoint the same. Probably you’re just seeing the effect of your lemmy instance not running on sufficient hardware (very understandable given the explosion in user space size).

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              Can you elaborate on the ‘politics’?

              I sense something weird , especially with the hardcoded ‘hate speech’ filter, which seems to run contrary to federation.

              Anything else I should know about ?

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                The two main devs seem to be Tankies or have at least close views. From what I heard, the hardcoded filter isn’t a thing anymore and was removed after heavy protest from other contributors. The good thing is that they don’t have any control outside their own instance and in worst case people would simply copy the project (since it’s open source) and move on without them. I hope that the different instances + community take a part of the donations to pay independent full time code contributors.

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      It better be BlackCoffee ;)

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    @CodingAndCoffee So you’re saying I can reply to this from Mastodon also?

    EDIT: please reply if you see this from kbin/lemmy 😅

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      Hello mastodon user. I’m seeing this on kbin.social as part of a “lemmy.world” thread. On kbin we have magazines (like reddit’s subreddits). This magazine is “youshouldknow@lemmy.world”. Your post is showing up as a comment in this thread. I’m doing a comment reply/response to yours.

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      Yes you can! :)

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        Awesome! Thank you.

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      I see you from Lemmy.one

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      I see you from the Beehaw lemmy instance!

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      Seeing this from kbin. The future is now.

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      You’re on mastodon? I’m on kbin! Wow!

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      Yes!

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      yes

    •  31dirty1   ( @31dirty1@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
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      I thought mastodon was a “twitter” like site… how would you be viewing Lemmy stuff?

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        It IS a Twitter-like site. It displays posts in more of a Twitter style. That being said - it is also part of the Fediverse, so theoretically you should be able to see all federated communities on any fediverse instance of your choosing.

        Personally, I have a kbin.social account and a mastodon.social account. I’m doing this because Mastodon doesn’t really present threads from kbin or lemmy in an easily digestable way, so I will use kbin as my reddit replacement, and Mastodon to replace Twitter.

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          So if I had the mastodon app, is there anything I can do with that? Or what would you be signed into to reply back? (Ie) I’m signed into my lemmy.fmhy.ml account, where would I sign into mastodon… tho, I’d like to create another instance to use more like my previous Reddit account

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            So you would have to sign up for a Mastodon instance to log on to the Mastodon app (I.e. Mastodon.social, mstdn.social, mstdn.es, etc). Similar to the fact that you’re signed in to a Lemmy instance right now on lemmy.fmhy.com there are other Lemmy instances such as lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, Beehaw.org, etc.

            Your Mastodon account would be completely separate from your Lemmy account.

            Does that make sense? Not sure if I explained that we’ll.

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              It makes sense they are separate, but I’m just not following the part where you’d sign in the mastodon app… (when to me it acts like twitter)

              I do have a mastodon account btw

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                Similarly, I can find your Lemmy.fmhy.ml account on Mastodon by searching for “31dirty1@lemmy.fmhy.ml”

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                  That makes more sense thank you!

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    Hey, can you folks at Lemmy see this post from kbin.social yet?

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      yes

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      I can!

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      We can!

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      this also works for other stuff using activitypub as well btw, not just lemmy but also platforms like mastodon, peertube etc

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      I’m able to see it.

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    This has been the most fascinating last few days. Hello Lemmy from Kbin~

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      Hello there! :D

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        So cool ^^
        Time to start digging through communities/magazines for places to be!

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          Stop by https://lemmy.fmhy.ml and check out our communities!

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        KENOBIIII

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    replying to myself from kbin.social!

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      Is it possible to do other way around? Comment on kbin from lemmy?

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        yes!

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      Ah interesting. I actually see this post over there so it seems replies from kbin are actually federating now. The question is if I will see my own comment.

      Edit: I do! Great news

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    OH THATS how you search for specific magazines on here (I am on kbin)!

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      Welcome!

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    Vulcan is reading this from kbin.social

    The federation is now active and hello!

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