before i overdo it, what is considered a “normal” amount of forma to apply to weapons/frames? i main nidus and i can’t see myself using 7 or 8 forma unless there is a really specific high cost build that is extremely efficient, but just curious what the average stopping point is, before i waste forma upgrading more than really necessary.

  • migoq ( migoq@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    The objectively correct answer is “enough”. Overframe is pretty bad for builds, but forma optimizing button is really nice so I recommend

  • Retrikaethan ( Retrikaethan@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    if i don’t intend to use it, zero including potatoes (i usually consider these to be mastery fodder, though i usually don’t destroy such weapons). if i like it, one or two at least to fill out all the slots well (these also get a potato). if i intend to use it a lot, as many as it needs to do what i want which is usually 5+. my sevagoth build has like… 13ish?+ normal forma and 3 umbral forma across his three moddable sections. HE IS A VERY HUNGRY BOY AND I LOVE HIM MUCH.

    so, really, as much as you want to put in, really. unless i want a super specific build, i will usually opt to put in forma on the more common polarities (V aka madurai, and ~ aka naramon) instead of a rarer one (like D aka vazarin, or = aka zenurik) assuming i have two mods of the same cost but different polarities in a build. i do this so that if i change my mind about the build later, it’s highly likely i can switch without needing to reforma the thing (the umbral mods make this REALLY annoying to achieve, though, cuz they’re so expensive and so is their forma)

  • neooffs ( neooffs@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    any forma will increase the power level of something. so I guess you can stop where said equipment feels good. simulacrum helps.

    of course if you’re at the endgame, farming platinum like me, you can forma without a second thought. being MR 30 and above you don’t even feel the impact of resetting its rank

  • d3me ( d3me@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    Most of the time I get the desired build at 3-5 Formas. Then a WF youtuber I trust drop a new good build and the forma count goes brrr… Just kidding, of course, most of the time you can get enough flexibility to change a few things unless you really go into energy-heavy riven mod build

  • Camreth ( Camreth@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    Entirely dependant on the weapon/frame. I basically just create the build I want, figure out how many forma is needed after which I decide if it’s worth the investment. For me the key part is to have the build in your head (or just make it on overframe I guess) before you start.

    I have very few things with 7-8 forma though since most builds are finished before that, and too many forma can be limiting if you want a alternate build (changing elements on a weapon for instance or a different focus on a frame build), the only thing I have that is fully formad is I think the trumna.

    At this stage though I don’t really mind just burning a forma for random stuff, and sp circuit has caused my forma usage to increase drastically since if I scout a weapon that could be good but that I never really played outside of leveling or that has a really old build I might as well drop a potato/arcane adapter/forma into it if it can benefit from them. I found a few fun weapons that I’d just leveled and moved on like that.

  • alsciaucat ( alsciaucat@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    3 years ago

    This is kind of a bullshit answer, but “as many as it takes”.

    I think I have 4-5 forma on some weapons1, but I haven’t done more than 2-3 on a frame. Some frames don’t need any at all to fit the build I want.

    1 Excluding tenet/kuva weapons, those I always put in 5 since it’s required to get the XP out of them. I often find myself debating what to do with that last forma needed, since at that point the build is rather tight.

    I think the need for more forma for frames probably comes with umbral builds, since umbra forma is scarce and the mods still use a ton of drain even with matching umbra polarities.

    For weapons it’s just “put in V polarity until it fits”, haha.

  • for frames, mains will typically have 6+ forma, my limbo has 8 and my yareli has 9. other frames you don’t use very often might have just a single, or 2-4. exalted weapon frames will likely use 5-10 total, and sevagoth needs at minimum 13.

    for weapons, favorites will, again, have 6+ forma. kuva/tenets get 5, no more since 40 capacity, and no less because of the extra mastery (don’t go full 5 if you don’t have a ton of forma though). weapons you don’t use often may have 1-4. melees typically use less forma due to the extra capacity gained with stance mods.

  • sXeth ( sXeth@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    Eh, probably 2-3 on average. For my full on loadouts though 7-8 isn’t really uncommon. Frames tend to need less overall but most of my preferred ones I’ve ended up flip flopping a bunch.

    (Also LR2, so at this point I am just building everything out lol)

  • _N_ ( _N_@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    As many times as required to put on the build I want to put on. That was especially problematic before umbra forma if I wanted to use two umbral mods, and it’s problematic today with ranged weapons because they don’t have stances/auras to increase mod capacity, and the primed & galvanized mods cost a lot of capacity.

    The only problem is that it also limits the builds I can put on because of conflicting polarities.

  • TelosBoltor ( TelosBoltor@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    Frames 1-2 tops, i pretty much only use prime frames tho and they come pre-loaded with 3-4 polaritys.

    Weapons similar deal, depends on base polaritys, but now that i have galv mods its like 5-6 polaritys needed on the weapons, especially with rivens or exilus if needed

  • Zjez ( Zjez@dormi.zone ) 
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    3 years ago

    Depends on the weapon/frame in question. Some need more than others, and some builds are also far more expensive than others. For most prime frames and weapons which come with a preset polarity or two, I find 1-2 forma to be more than enough the majority of the time.