• I’m surprised no one has mentioned package managers yet. I feel like a barbarian when trying to install software on other OSs. Especially macs. I feel like mac software is collectively pulling a prank on me.

    Whenever I try to help my newbie friends with computer issues I’ll be like “uh just install croc and I can give you another command to run”. But then I remember that installing software on a system without a package manager is pain. “Okay you have to go to this random github address, then download this specifically-named package, then extract that to a random directory that you’ll never move it from, then you have to put that directory in your PATH variable.” But wait, modifying your PATH variable needs its own set of instructions!

    On a related note, if I could just give people on other OSs one-liners to fix all their problems it would fix all my problems. I could absolutely bang out a one-liner to fix your problem, but if we have to do it through the GUI then we gotta screenshare.

    •  Sev   ( @SevYote@pawb.social ) 
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      In theory, Homebrew should solve this, but I’ve just had so many bad experiences with it over the years, I won’t touch it. All the problems you can imagine from trying to tell a non-techy friend over voice, without screensharing, how to do all that stuff you just listed? Brew seems to make those same mistakes half the damned time, and leave your system / the app in a weird, half-installed state. It seems like most app devs have come to the same conclusion and just make actually good installers. It’s unfortunate that it’s come to that, but there ya go. I honestly have no idea if that’s a Homebrew problem or if it’s just doing its best with what apple gives it to work with, but either way.

      I’ve had better experiences with Chocolatey on Windows, but for casual / everyday use it’s just so rare I need to install something that doesn’t have its own nice installer, so I very rarely run it.

  • Honestly, and this will definitely be a bit abstract sounding, I miss my machine not getting in my way. On Mac, it’s the small things that bug me… You can’t use Delete to trash highlighted files, you can’t use the arrow keys to cycle through viewed images in a folder, etc. The way MacOS handles software installtions bugs me too, it feels like it’s rather difficult to ever fully delete software you’ve installed on the machine, at least using Disk Images from 3rd parties. On Windows, it feels like the OS is designed to get in your way, in particular when trying to tweak anything in the Settings it just becomes an absolute nightmare to deal with. MacOS at least does settings… Better, I guess? Linux is hardly perfect here either, and really deep settings will need the terminal, but they are there for you if you want them.

    •  Monz   ( @monz@pawb.social ) 
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      I 💯 understand what you mean! The feeling of “in the way.” I feel that the most on Windows for sure. It’s like fighting the OS just to do what you want!

  • Being able to install a compiler without having to spin up WSL or fiddle with the crap that is visual studio and its associated software.

    Also parts of the linux desktop stack that are really good like pipewire, it’s a pain to have to use 3rd party software to achieve the same things on windows.

    • You’re not kidding about the boot-up times. When I had a Windows partition on my main Linux PC, it was shocking to me just how much slower W10 was to boot-up vs Pop!_OS. And like… I use LUKS encryption which does make that process a bit slower, and it was still markedly faster than Windows booting up.

  • Since I do a lot of retrocomputing: support for more than a few file systems. I’m not just talking about what’s available out-of-the-box, but what’s even available at all to find and install.

  • The customization and tinkering for the most part. You can change stuff up in linux like puzzle pieces, change which things do which (like changing display server, init system, etc). Not only that, but changing the appearance on your desktop is a piece of cake on Linux. You can really make the desktop your own, something that I miss when I need to use windows for certain stuff.

  • It used to be multiple workspaces, but with Windows having that now, it’s just the ease of install and use of build tools.

    Part of this is the existence of package managers, and part of it is just how well they integrate with the operating system. Using the GNU Compiler Collection on Linux or Linux-like systems is just so much less of a rigamarole compared to getting any usable set-up on Windows.

    Another thing I miss when I go to use Windows is the compose key. It’s so much better integrated on Linux. Mac’s solution to special characters meanwhile is fine. Windows’ just isn’t.

    Finally, and this is the biggest one is little power user customizability tools (yes, I know Microsoft has things made for this, but they aren’t installed and/or available out of the box). Customizability of the programs one uses everyday and the overall behaviour of one’s computer is an absolute must, but I understand why Microsoft moved Windows away from that model. Most people don’t want or need that.

    Others have mentioned it too, but Linux just doesn’t get in your way like many other OSes do.

      •  Syudagye   ( @Syudagye@pawb.social ) 
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        i find it not suitable here, since i’m almost never on windows, i can’t get it to work how i want. I could be using it with neovide (which is how i do most of the time) but it’s just not the same feeling since i don’t have the exact fonts and configuration as on my linux systems, and i really don’t want to take time configuring windows for this. If i need to have a code editor it’s generally vscode or something similar (with vim keybinds ofc)