https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/15/reddit-threatens-to-remove-subreddit-moderators/
Reddit: If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.
Based on this, it’s very possible that the Path of Exile subreddit will end up being assigned to some other group of people than the current set
This might be due to statements from advertisers that they would stop paying for reddit ads if the blackout lasted longer
Campaigns have notched slightly lower impression delivery and consequently, slightly higher CPMs, over the days of the blackout, Johnson said. If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.
I don’t know what this means right now for the community. Not everyone has had a chance to respond in the mod team yet, but so far, it looks to be strongly in favor of not opening the subreddit as a result of reddit saying this. The general consensus is that Reddit won’t be able to / won’t actually choose to replace many thousands of mods.
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I am strongly for not opening up again and instead try to migrate to an open solution like this instance. people complaining about missing features and whatsoever will always exist…
i hope you understand the point of the community is the community, and not the platform it is on
You agree that the community can move on to another platform, then?
I definitely think he made the case for using this platform if the platform doesn’t matter.
The community will decide which platform they prefer. If this instance provides good content, it will grow. Maybe add it as related community to the subreddit before leaving for good if you believe nothing will change.
@miraclechalk
The sad thing is that SOMEONE will step up to replace.
Don’t worry, it’ll be me, and I promise to re-add Multiplicity and the rest of the old guard once I inevitably get appointed as head mod.
(@ing him instead of replying to his comment because it won’t let me reply)
Not here to start some back and forth argument, but just offering my perspective as a brand new player right before the blackout started. The subreddit is a treasure trove of information over years of questions, answers and discussions. Many questions have already played out to consensus or differing opinions for each to decide on their own via posts on the subreddit. I don’t believe that permanently closing the subreddit is a good idea, as you’re losing an archive of that massive amount of information that has already been discussed. Google already stopped surfacing the search results of blacked out subreddits so using an archive site to research answers is already not a good option, nor is that a good experience. Also lost is being able to continue those discussions as a new user rather than having to start from scratch and everyone have to repeat themselves to even get back to the baseline context of the new player’s additional questions.
I understand some of the stances the mods are taking and understand some are opposed to the APIs causing the shutdown of third party apps, but as a person that works the business side in much of the same situation that reddit has been placed under with the advent of AI hammering APIs and ad revenue becoming harder to come by, I understand why reddit is doing what they are doing. I’m an AWS architect so I understand the cost pressure from the advent of AI training. I’m also a moderator on a large 100K+ Facebook group so I understand mods need to have appropriate tools to do their job and reddit has shown they are working on or have already filled the gaps in the official means of doing so. Reddit is also leaving stuff like bots as-is to continue supporting moderation.
Those arguments aside, I think the best move is for those mods that do not want to fall into the guardrails reddit is placing choose to relinquish their mod status and allow those that want to continue to mod to do so with the sub opened back up. Perhaps some of the community chooses a different place to continue the community discussions. I believe in users having options. I myself prefer reddit/facebook/etc rather than website forums for discussion for various reasons. I like my information in just a few places rather than scattered all over the place and also being able to search and find relevant discussions in other communities is a real benefit and value of a platform like reddit vs dedicated website.
Anyway, hope this doesn’t get flamed. Just trying to show not everyone supports the continued blackout nor permanent closure of the subreddit. See you all in game regardless.
You can always use the cached webpage if it pops up in a Google search. The treasure trove is still available even with the blackout…
imo, it all boils down to “if you’re getting people to do free labor, don’t fuck them over”.
Capitalism demands growth or death, never the status quo, no matter how good it was.
rip poe community unlucky that the mods have such strong values when it comes to the ethics of online chat room moderation
Reddit is in an interesting spot. The blackout cannot continue or they start losing advertising dollars. And they cannot risk pulling a twitter and having an unmoderated site or they’ll lose advertising dollars.
And so continues the downward spiral…
The sad thing is that SOMEONE will step up to replace. Unfortunately they either won’t know what they’re doing or won’t care about the community they are moderating. Combined with the fact that I have yet to see anything about enhanced moderation capabilities that 3rd party apps currently provide being offered. Subreddits will suffer.