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 Sonny   ( @Sonny@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 years ago

ECoNomY rule

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ECoNomY rule

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 Sonny   ( @Sonny@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 years ago
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  •  astral_avocado   ( @astral_avocado@programming.dev ) 
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    I can appreciate the spirit of this post, but it’s a perspective only a teenager could hold.

    •  adderaline   ( @ondoyant@beehaw.org ) 
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      people should not starve. we have the resources to ensure nobody starves. it isn’t a naive statement, its a moral imperative.

      •  astral_avocado   ( @astral_avocado@programming.dev ) 
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        Sure, I agree with that

    •  Hiuhokiguess   ( @Hiuhokiguess@reddthat.com ) 
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      Coming right out the gate with bruh was the giveaway.

  •  Aesthesiaphilia   ( @Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social ) 
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    Money is nothing but a bunch of IOUs to make bartering easier.

    •  OrnateLuna   ( @OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      I recommend this video which talks about bartering and how our simplistic view of bartering is quite innacurate to how things worked pre-money societies.

      •  lugal   ( @lugal@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Yes, Andrewism is great!

        If you are really interested in the topic, you should take the time to read “Debt, the first 5,000 years” by David Graeber. Totally worth it!

      •  AnarchoYeasty   ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) Banned
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        Andrewism is great. The majority of the video is discussing David Graebers Debt the first 5000 years which for a book about the history of debt and the relations between people in society is surprisingly entertaining. I’d recommend checking it out.

        https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-debt-the-first-five-thousand-years

      •  Aesthesiaphilia   ( @Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social ) 
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        Is that guy’s accent…Irish Caribbean?

        •  lugal   ( @lugal@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          If I’m not mistaken he’s somewhere from western Africa. Was it Togo?

          •  CosmicFlowchart   ( @CosmicFlowchart@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            No, he’s from Trinidad.

            •  lugal   ( @lugal@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              So I was very wrong. Thanks for dewronging me! (Is that a word? It is now)

    •  zzzeyez   ( @zzzeyez@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
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      it’s a metaphysical substance with vampiric properties.

      however, in my praxis and agitprop i do not fight against money or markets. i fight against capitalists inheriting all the wealth through a stock market riddled by Dark Pools and Arbitration and landlords that suck up a giant portion of our wealth (and even Adam Smith spoke against).

  •  DingleBoone   ( @DingleBoone@reddthat.com ) 
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    This is like saying, “Why can’t we all just pretend counterfeit money is real?” Sure, it sounds like a nice simple solution until suddenly everyone prints counterfeit money and expects to buy things that no one is producing now that an easier option has appeared.

  •  JVT038   ( @JVT038@feddit.nl ) 
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    Hmm, but why would a farmer provide food to people without getting anything in return? This is, assuming everyone is selfish, which is the core assumption of capitalism.

    •  adderaline   ( @ondoyant@beehaw.org ) 
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      thinking that farmers should do work with nothing in return as a method of ending food insecurity is ignorant to the work being done to address food insecurity. nobody is proposing farmers should work for free. food stamps, subsidized farming, community owned farmland, urban gardening, universal basic income, food banks, all of these things and more are how we eradicate starvation, and how many other developed nations have successfully reduced food insecurity.

      systems which allow people to starve are indefensible in a world where we can make enough food for people, and we absolutely can do that.

    •  SattaRIP   ( @SattaRIP@kbin.social ) 
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      Economics and unrealistic assumptions, name a nore iconic duo.

      •  argv_minus_one   ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) Banned
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        It’s not unrealistic to assume that most people don’t want to do a hard, miserable, body-ruining, thankless job (i.e. farming) in exchange for absolutely nothing.

        •  SattaRIP   ( @SattaRIP@kbin.social ) 
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          I didn’t specify that one assumption. I was thinking more like what the ither comment said.

      •  JVT038   ( @JVT038@feddit.nl ) 
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        Well I mean, most of the liberal and classical economists generally try to predict the behaviors of consumers, which lead to assumptions such as “People will generally be selfish”.

        •  Platomus   ( @Platomus@lemm.ee ) 
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          Because they’re put in an economic system where if they aren’t - they starve.

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