At first this article reads like your typical anti-piracy screed. It rants about how 10x more people watched GoT illegally (confusing them with lost sales) and ends with how downloading movies can get your credit card stolen.
The middle of the article however, destroys the author’s case.
Time Warner (owning company of HBO) CEO Alan Bewkes stated in 2013 how becoming the most illegally streamed show in history was “better than an Emmy” and that torrenting ultimately led to more paid subscriptions.
“We’ve been dealing with this for 20, 30 years—people sharing subs, running wires down the backs of apartment buildings. Our experience is that it leads to more paying subs. I think you’re right that Game of Thrones is the most pirated show in the world and that’s better than an Emmy.”
The CEO of Time Warner, who knows more about the situation than ForeverGeek writer Tom Llewellyn, championed piracy and said that it brought them more subscribers rather than nearly destroying the show as the article claims.
Needless to say, Tom ignored this in favor of writing how you can get malware from downloading it…
Anti-Piracy Propaganda: 0 Truth: 1
- Jeena ( @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net ) English185•1 year ago
Good thing they were fast enough to destroy it with the shittiest last season ever.
GoT never captured me past the first few episodes. What was bad about the ending?
- Jeena ( @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net ) English48•1 year ago
That they yhrew away all the rules they established before like traveling now took 0 hours and soon. All of this because the last book wasn’t written yet so they had to write some story themselves and failed misserably.
- WookieMunster ( @WookieMunster@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
I remember people knew the ending due to leaks about a year ahead of time and claimed it was all BS since it was so ridiculous. We were all wrong
- Sebastrion ( @Sebastrion@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 6•1 year ago
For a secound i forgot we are talking about Game of Thrones and not Star Wars Episode 9.
- NightOwl ( @NightOwl@lemmy.one ) 1•1 year ago
I went from avoiding leaks to a few episodes in not caring and read the leaks and laughed. Then joined freefolk to laugh at the show as it aired, which made it a much less miserable affair than it would have been. A nice season long The Room roasting for the show.
Watching it straight up would have been pure torture.
- ScrivenerX ( @ScrivenerX@lemm.ee ) English20•1 year ago
A surprising amount went wrong.
While there are a sea of complaints, the biggest for me was that all of the characters stopped having internal logic. Take Jamie, he had a character arc moving from a vain knight avoiding responsibility and having an incestuous relationship with his sister, to having depth, showing that he was wracked with guilt for breaking his oath to help people. Falling in love with a woman for her character and who she was. Being responsible and honorable again. Then the last season came around and he dropped all of his growth to be with his sister.
It’s like D&D decided that there would be a cool scene of him dieing with Cersi and didn’t care how he got there.
- NightOwl ( @NightOwl@lemmy.one ) English1•1 year ago
It was hilarious to see Tyrion find them with a light dusting of bricks on top. Comedy.
- RyanHx ( @RyanHx@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English13•1 year ago
The show reached a point where they’d surpassed where the books were in the narrative and things fell apart. The political intrigue, backstabbing, and subversive nature of the story was done away with in favour of forcing plot points through to get everything wrapped up, with no consideration made on why those characters would act in the way they did.
- calm.like.a.bomb ( @_calm_bomb_@lemmy.ml ) English9•1 year ago
Everything
- Puppy ( @Puppy@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Tldr; the whole 6 first season they set up the table for some really juicy stuff and in the last season, some side quests were either ignored or fast-tracked to fit in 1/3 of an episode. Realistically, you had content for at least 3+ more seasons. But since GRR Martin is so slow to write his books (I don’t blame him, just pointing out the obvious), the producers of the show had to cut corner and take huge liberties that didn’t make any sense
- VentraSqwal ( @VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social ) English6•1 year ago
The best way to summarize it is the writing lol. And they tried to rush plot points way too fast.
- Banzai51 ( @Banzai51@midwest.social ) English8•1 year ago
And the plot points they decided to skip earlier in the season stuck out like a sore thumb. If you read the books and knew where they left off, you could see how those elements fit into the ending and made it a ton better.
- inverimus ( @inverimus@lemm.ee ) English33•1 year ago
They fail to mention that when GoT started in 2011, HBO wasn’t available at all without a cable TV subscription, so people who had already dropped cable didn’t have any other choice. HBO streaming without cable didn’t become available until 2015.
- SpaceCowboy ( @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 year ago
Yeah, I don’t think I’m all that special and I pirated the earlier seasons of GoT. The later seasons I watched legally, because by then it was available on a local streaming site I could well afford. If pirating wasn’t an option it wouldn’t have meant I would’ve spent the money to subscribe to a cable package that included HBO, (which would’ve cost a lot because you had to get some expensive bundle) I just wouldn’t have watched GoT at all. So they didn’t really lose anything from it.
And it’s possible I may not have watched the later seasons legally either, because “eh… too late to get into this thing now.”
HBO is a luxury thing and something like GoT could be the thing that’ll entice people that could afford it and were thinking of getting it anyway to subscribe. The most relevant thing that influences their subscription numbers is the average income of the middle class, not piracy.
- Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) English30•1 year ago
luckily the showrunners were around to finish the job
- Banzai51 ( @Banzai51@midwest.social ) English25•1 year ago
Bullshit. While it was the most pirated show no doubt, It did drive HBO subscriptions and BluRay sales. The drastic fall off in show quality after season 4 did it in.
- FermatsLastAccount ( @FermatsLastAccount@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
Did you not read the post?
- NightAuthor ( @NightAuthor@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
Are we supposed to?
Idk there’s comments here, I was expecting to get all the relevant parts extracted for me (as I do in other posts I come across)
- pectoralis ( @pectoralis@lemm.ee ) English16•1 year ago
I wasn’t even able to stream it legally in Canada. The only way I could watch it legally was to get a cable subscription and a $15/mo HBO package. Fuck that!
- Lumidaub ( @Lumidaub@feddit.de ) English14•1 year ago
movies can get your credit card stolen
joke’s on you i’ve never had a credit card
- TimewornTraveler ( @TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ) English9•1 year ago
Instead it was destroyed by two greedy fucks rushing the ending two seasons early so they could move on to their next cash grab flop!
- 雨 月 ( @Ugetsu@feddit.de ) English1•1 year ago
What WAS their next cash grab though?
- boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) English9•1 year ago
I don’t think HBO was even available in my country when GoT started. Towards the end it might’ve been. But you still had to also have the TV service from a specific ISP, not JUST the Internet service. Now there are more options, but it’s still always bundled with some other shit you don’t need.
- EtzBetz ( @EtzBetz@feddit.de ) English6•1 year ago
THIS. I remember, when I started watching GoT, it was a shitshow to actually get the content in ANY way, not even speaking about getting access legally. This changed with time, but the show often was exclusive to Sky, which is one of the most garbage paid tv services I know of. I can buy it, but I REALLY don’t want to support Sky for their bad service. There really should be no exclusivity to those things.
- Blackmist ( @Blackmist@feddit.uk ) English7•1 year ago
Luckily, the writers got there first.
- tram1 ( @tram1@programming.dev ) English6•1 year ago
hot take: maybe Game of Thrones should have been destroyed
- Florielle Willenheim ( @Flolishous@lib.lgbt ) English6•1 year ago
Man it would be their own fault when it came to Australia, trying to watch it legally had to pay for pay TV and if you only payed for the service for the express purpose of watching GOT it worked out at $70 per episode. Fuck that.
- HOBO ( @Hobo@lzrprt.sbs ) English4•1 year ago
And that’s why we were the number 1 pirates of GoT by a mile!
- Gabtraf ( @Gabtraf@lemmy.ml ) English5•1 year ago
I became so eager to consume the show, that I paid for NowTV so I could legally stream it much sooner than pirates ha fit available, and I’d get up an hour earlier than I needed to for work just to watch it so I didn’t have it spoiled.
- Rolivers ( @Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ) English5•1 year ago
It was only possible to watch GoT in the Netherlands when you were with one specific provider. That’s what caused piracy.
- verysoft ( @verysoft@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
Classic bait post. Can we leave this bs on reddit?
- sanols ( @sanols@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year ago
Was OP trying to bait? They used the headline from the article and even wrote a summary that explained the article.
- Emu ( @Emu@lemmy.ml ) English4•1 year ago
I wasn’t able to access the show when it was around so I downloaded it. Sadly I also downloaded the last season which the show runners raped
- HOBO ( @Hobo@lzrprt.sbs ) English5•1 year ago
That moment when you feel guilty about pirating something, not because of moral reasons, but because the show was so bad.