• minnieo ( minnieo@kbin.social ) OP
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      Yes, at this point, there is really no fucking saving it or hoping for changes, they will go as far as they need to go to get their profits back up. It must be abandoned. The only time I ever spend on reddit is to convince people to migrate to kbin or lemmy (nicely, dont be annoying)

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      @LinkOpensChest_wav

      @minnieo

      It’s always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

      Exception taken.

      Don’t get me wrong: it has been an absolute dogshit downward spiral for at least the last five years, but what it has become bares almost no resemblance to what it was 15 years ago - or even 8 years ago.

      It had great potential and utility. All of it squandered via some of the worst decisions possible. Each of which ignored the current user base in favor of a quick buck.

      It needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

      Echoing: Fuck Reddit.

        • I understand now, and you’re certainly entitled to your opinion.

          That type of content comes with the territory, and could easily be avoided until relatively recently if you didn’t go looking for it.

          What was arguably the most diverse and far reaching collection of individual message boards cannot be filed away as a hyperbolic monolith of the perceived horrors such a place will inevitably contain.

          Whatever your interest, reddit had a lively discussion for it. The cancer you describe is a result of the society it allowed to publish. Further, it metastisized from it’s self-contained cesspools when they were closed.

          It’s clear that either your experience on the site is narrow, while the site is extremely wide - or you’re retconning your prior experience based upon your current opinion.

    • okbin ( okbin@kbin.social ) 
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      they won’t

      i tried to move my 100k subscriber sub to kbin (i also offered two different chatrooms)

      6 came to kbin and people started attacking me for having the sub closed (one person even resorted to transphobia like jesus fucking christ) and being “political” and one person even made their own version of my subreddit

      moving is too much work (it’s actually not that much work, but since we now need two videos playing at the same time and can only watch those vids for 30 seconds, everything is “too much work”). that’s why people are still on facebook, twitter, instagram, and tiktok.

      i’m very glad there’s an acceptable amount of activity on the “threadiverse” right now… but i just don’t have hope that everyone will leave.

      • I don’t think getting everyone on Reddit to leave should even be the goal. Reddit was a much better place before the Digg exodus, and Digg’s comment section then was a lot like Reddit is now, largely just low-effort, openly hostile flaming. That’s probably not something worth bringing over.

      • @okbin@kbin.social it’s ok, people will gradually move out as Reddit deteriorates. Eventually most interesting people will be elsewhere, the platform will still exist but it will be an empty shell.
        The important thing is for threadiverse to take flight and acquire a sustainable size, the rest will happen in time.

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          nope. BPDmemes… which is just fucking sad because BPD is associated with identity issues including gender identity, so in some sense being transphobic can be ableist in that context as well.

          i’m letting it go, they were probably just really dysregulated (as is the nature of this illness). but i did ban them for all of pride month.

          however, my friend and i HAVE seen transphobia in the owl house community and we don’t understand??? there are literally multiple trans characters on the show like why would you be transphobic if you’re a fan you. walnut

    • You know how there are posts all over Reddit (and even all over here) saying “what’s with the porn on r/interestingasfuck?” or “I don’t know what’s going on with John Oliver”?

      It’s because of them that the “protests” must continue. Raising awareness is the point. Only a small percentage even know what’s going on.

      Reddit would love for everyone to quietly go away, they’ll pretend nothing happened and move on with a small chunk of users missing but still growing.

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      PSA: The shitty website this person mentioned bears NO RESEMBLANCE to reddit.

      It’s always been S---------- 2.0 anyway

      that is a really fucked up thing to say. idk who you are or what are your motivations.

      making an equivalency between reddit and a 100% white supremacist nazi website is:

      a) promoting that website

      b) saying that website is similar to reddit. Does S----------- have the variety of users and topics as reddit? No! Whatever your criticism of reddit, however over tolerant reddit was of some really shitty communities, it was not founded explicitly and exclusively as a way of promoting genocide and violence.

      Your comparison serves only to uplift S------------. Which may or may not be your intention.

    • victron ( victron@kbin.social ) 
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      I’m eager to see how reddit becomes a steaming turd after June 30th, that imbecile is gonna end up with nothing of value in his hands. Let’s see where that profit comes from then

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      The only good that can truly come of this at this stage is sabotaging Huffman’s hopes of cashing out for a second time, after he sold his stake for a ““mere”” 10 million back in the day.

    • Also … Reddit is a private business where people were allowed to come in to chat and talk … don’t act surprised when the owners and managers change their minds for whatever reason and decide to kick you out.

      It’s the company’s space, like the lobby of a shopping mall … people are freely allowed to come in, sit down and chat … don’t be surprised if the owners of the mall decide one day that they no longer like you any more and bring security in to escort you out.

      You have no rights or privileges on a private social media site … you have temporary permissions … and those can be changed, disregarded, forgotten or done away with at the discretion of the owners at any time for any reason.

      LEAVE REDDIT … you’re on someone else’s lawn and they don’t like you any more.

  • If Reddit is taking the mantle of determining valid content and is editing and changing posts for users without their consent, doesn’t that run the risk they fall afoul of the Safe Harbor clause of DMCA?

    IMO they’re getting mighty close to editorial control.

    • You are definitely onto something. Section 230 is what keeps Reddit alive, get rid of Section 230 protection of reddit GG.

      Best course of action, file a complaint that Reddit Inc. Filed falsified documents with the Supreme Court on January 2023. They should not be able to use section 230 as a form of defense anymore, now that Reddit has constantly removed mods and interfered with subbreddits. FYI I modded the original r/EASportsFC and Reddit admins gifted to it r/fifa been looking into this for awhile, but I also eat crayons and not a laywer.

      Filed January 2023 with Supreme Court

      Reddit, Inc. is a community of online communities.
      Reddit provides a platform for Internet users (called
      “Redditors”) to connect with each other in communities (called “subreddits”) that are based on shared interests. 2 Reddit is one of the most popular sites on the Internet, with more than 50 million active users every day. But Reddit’s
      approach to content moderation makes it different
      from many social media companies. As explained below, Reddit relies on a bottom-up, community-based approach where individual users—not the company—take the lead.

      Redditors create and organize their own subreddits devoted to their specific interests. They establish their own rules governing what content is acceptable within their subreddit. And those rules are enforced by users themselves.Redditors also directly control the degree to which user-generated content items like posts, comments, and
      media are visible on the platform. The display of content on Reddit is thus primarily driven by humans—not by centralized algorithms.

      https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-902-1996-amendments-18-usc-1001

      Tldr - fuck reddit.

    • Ooh, an interesting theory, though we’d need an actionable scenario to test it. But in theory …I think so. Moderation itself no, filtering posts or editing out words or phrases no, but editing posts in a way that changes the intent / message might run afoul of Section 230. Unclear if the courts would apply it per post or for Reddit as a whole, though.

  • Nougat ( Nougat@kbin.social ) 
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    This morning’s news about the r/mildlyinteresting team being reinstated and unsuspended by a different admin - that’s confirmation that there’s internal conflict going on. Protests don’t work, my ass.

  • Thalyssa ( Thalyssa@kbin.social ) 
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    The dumbfuck bootlickers who’re “yay my content coming back” are fucking cringe. I hope the new people who mod the subs are alt-right trash who will push their shitty ideology onto the subs.

    Good riddance.

  • lixus98 ( lixus98@kbin.social ) 
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    Wow, I never thought I’d see the day where Reddit would remove entire mod teams.
    I guess they were right when they said:

    The r/WatchRedditDie moderator team regrets to inform our community that we have, in fact, watched Reddit die…

    Reddit died and we watched it.

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      “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa

  • The most mindboggling thing about all of this to me is if Reddit had just improved their own app to be up to par with the multitude of 3rd party apps out there, none of this would have been an issue. They could’ve migrated everyone over to the official app easily with just a better experience. If a single person can wrangle an app together that outperforms the official one in a month, Reddit has no excuses. Personally, I’m delighted all of this has happened, as it’s allowed for multiple viable alternatives to be populated. Which I’ve been wanting for a very very long time.

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      It really could have been a symbiotic relationship with the third party app devs. But Reddit went all psycho and seems to have taken the API push back personally.