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It was beneficial.
To white property owners. Much to the detriment of enslaved Africans and their descendants.
Property? That’s a bit broad…
It was beneficial to slave owners, specifically.
And their families should be paying reparations for the ill gotten gains.
WHITE slave owners.
You seem to be avoiding a certain adjective.
This is an incomplete view of the history of slavery. By the numbers, the vast majority of the people benefitting from chattel slavery were white. However, slave ownership reached similar per capita rates among some of the Native American tribes, and there were instances of slaves being owned by free people of color. Notably, there are a large number of black tribal members in the United States. The United States government signed a number of treaties with the tribes in the 1860s that required them to free their slaves and incorporate them as full tribal members.
None of this is said to diminish the fact that the American system of slavery was a product of colonization by European countries. But it is rather reductive to claim that only white property owners benefitted from the atrocity that was chattel slavery.
While vast majority were “white”… There were others who owned slaves.
All of their families should be held accountable and their profits and wealth should be dislodged to pay reperations to the decedants.
Allowing successors to keep these gains is a crime in of itself.
It’s also basically the main reason that the US becamean superpower before WW1
pass on the message that “slavery was so beneficial that this time white people should be enslaved” and watch the whole thing die out.
They’re already on the way to doing that. The slow striping of worker’s rights won’t have a natural end until everyone but the elites are serfs.
I can’t stop working. Even if my retirement accounts continue to exist for the three more decades it will take me to begin drawing from them, I have no way to know and absolutely no trust that they quantity of money will be sufficient to support me.
The bank can take pretty much anything I own if I lose my job and fall behind, which severely curtails my ability to do anything except exactly what I’m told at work.
What’s the major difference between this and serfdom, except that my current lords don’t even have to supply me with food and shelter directly?
Some are actually trying to bring company towns back. In some countries, Walmart pays their employees, in whole or in part, with gift cards.
In the US, Walmart pays their employees by teaching them to file for food stamps and then keeping their pay depressed enough to qualify.
What a sick thing to say…
When you care more about profits than people, that’s the kind of slavery apologist shit that you say… just disgusting…
That logic never changed… Here we are…
I am sure this will be the GOP/Nazi party line in Florida.
The changes to Florida’s education system made in the previous decade have been dismal. Florida is driving itself into the ground, not the least because climate change will sink the state in the next century. DeSantis and his ilk need to be removed from office and soon or the states they govern could take decades or even possibly a century to recover.
Conservatives are pure evil incarnate.
What!? There is something seriously wrong with this! Just don’t do business with Florida at all.
Every time someone says America was built on slavery they are saying slavery was beneficial.
Our nation would be larger and stronger if slavery never existed. Never forget that slavery stole from all of us.
“Built on slavery” is referring to the benefits that the ruling class received by exploiting slaves and that exploitation is a core part of US culture. It reminds people that most of the population was not included in the “all men are created equal” documents of the time.
It is not a positive phrase about general benefits for everyone. It is a reminder that we did, and still do, terrible things and we should not forget.
“Built on slavery” is referring to the benefits that the ruling class received
Anyone saying this is either gaslighting or doesn’t understand the English language.
You are confidently incorrect.
the linked article is quite poorly written, but I also had to look at 4 different stories to find some details
When high school students learn about events such as the 1920 Ocoee massacre, the new rules require that instruction include “acts of violence perpetrated against and by African Americans.” The massacre is considered the deadliest Election Day violence in US history and, according to several histories of the incident, it started when Moses Norman, a prominent Black landowner in the Ocoee, Florida, community, attempted to cast his ballot and was turned away by White poll workers.
You seriously believe this story?
You under estimate how big of a shithole Florida is.
I checked the source document and it looks like an extremely comprehensive and fair overview of slavery.
Check it out for yourselves, the African American part is right at the beginning: https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/20653/urlt/6-4.pdf
The offending part is on page 6Examine the various duties and trades performed by slaves (e.g., agricultural
work, painting, carpentry, tailoring, domestic service, blacksmithing,
transportation).
Clarification 1: Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be
applied for their personal benefit.Maybe looks bad on its own but looking at the whole document you can see how the framing in OP is ridiculous.
Yeah, from this excerpt, in no way is it saying that slavery was good because they learned skills that later beneficial to them.
So I read the document, and I think it’s actually worse than what OP wrote. Looking through the curriculum, there’s a steady emphasis on African Americans as “patriots”
Identify African Americans who demonstrated heroism and patriotism (e.g.,Booker T. Washington, Jesse Owens, Tuskegee Airmen, Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, President…
And conveniently there’s no mention of how systemic racism and white supremacy still exist and oppress African Americans today. Garvey, etc. Are mentioned but conveniently in the past.
Which is what they want. Emphasize the model people and show that they can be patriots. Downplay what you don’t like. Maybe your definition of education is different but I don’t think it should be about saying we should all be good little flag salutors.
I agree that it’s rage bait, but you can’t trust Florida on this.
Btw the fact that America makes kids pledge an oath to a flag every morning is fucked up, just saying.
“And conveniently there’s no mention of how systemic racism and white supremacy still exist and oppress African Americans today.”
Because they shouldn’t teach fantasy in schools.