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Did everyone forget the texts to minors? Dude was a predator. He wasn’t dropped from the show just on the DV accusations but also the mountain of evidence that show he was a creep. https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/justin-roiland-claims-embittered-ex-tried-to-have-him-canceled-but-fans-ask-what-about-those-alleged-creepy-messages-to-minors/
I personally think it was the wrong call to drop Roiland before his court case for domestic abuse was reviewed - innocent until proven guilty.
Remember how at the start of the Depp/Heard trial everyone labeled Depp a monster? Then in court, Heard revealed herself to be a liar.
However, the texts he sent to minors were disqualifying in their own right. As a form of risk mitigation, you can’t continue to employ the star of a show teens love, texting underage girls about how they should hurry up and turn eighteen.
I believe he actually wanted to leave. He’s a Co creator and will still win money from Rick and Morty. But not if people stop watching as protest or something like that. And at this point it’s all 100% an image issue and it doesn’t matter if he’s guilty or not. He knows his image is already fkd. Most of his “friends” and coworkers cut relations with him to protect themselves.
This is just speculation, but I assumed as a matter of respect, the R&M team would have given him a choice to step down or not. I don’t see a situation where keeping him on would be worth the hassle.
What’s most egregious is that Adult Swim are owned by WB and look how many chances they gave Ezra Miller and he still got to be The Flash. Roiland had one set of dropped charges and he got sacked.
The Roiland DV case is very different from the depp/heard defamation case.
1: the Roiland case was about whether or not he was found to be committing DV. and it was inconclusive evidence. He might not be found guilty but he’s also not found innocent.
2: His accuser was not to be found guilty of perjury. the case was about finding evidence of DV. Not perjury of his accuser. the depp/heard case was explicitly about what heard gave to the media is what she was found guilty of.
3: Roiland and his accuser didn’t sign a non-disparagement claus. and his accuser didn’t then go talk to Washington post without any conclusive evidence on the outcome of the case. And probably a good thing roiland didn’t sign such a non-disparagement claus as he did post misinformation meant to publicly harm his accuser with that misleading Twitter post about what his case was actually about.
The number of people in this post that don’t understand the difference between a private company’s HR/PR decisions and the actual legal system is shocking.
No one said they couldn’t fire roiland because it violates laws. They said he shouldn’t have been fired because of the concept of innocent until proven guilty. That’s separate from the law.
But the text messages to minors should be enough for anyone to want him fired.
- Juno ( @Juno@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Is there any good proof about the messages or is it just speculative. If it’s speculative, it’s not enough.
What are you talking about? “Innocent until proven guilty” is only relevant from the perspective of the law.
The law isn’t the beginning and end of thought. The law was made because of the principle. It’s not fully encompassing of the principle.
Plus firing somebody that then it results it was innocent all along could as be very bad PR. Not in this case since ethere other stuff…
in case anyone else was wondering, the answer to the replacement method is ‘soundalikes’
This is why you don’t short yourself on voice actors and make only one do them all. Hinging your entire success off of one and only one person brings and creates it’s own risks.
It shouldn’t be a problem, there are some really good Justin Roiland soundalikes, and it’s not like Rick’s voice hasn’t changed over the course of the show anyways.
The harder part will be finding someone with the right comedic timing. That’s Roiland’s bigger contribution to the show
Good, I’m glad it’s not AI.
Not sure any AI could handle voicing the two main characters of a show (yet), but the ongoing strikes and all do have me worry for the future of the profession.
Everyone lamenting Rick & Morty, and I’m over here like “What about Solar Opposites? I must know what’s going on with the wall people!”
Dan Stevens is taking over the role of Corvo, they put out a short video with the recast last month https://youtu.be/IyTANvYnbD8
Lmao that’s awesome. Quick, painless (well, not for Corvo), and fits the show.
That was great!
Just watched Season 6 on Hulu. Rick and Morty is still great.
Then again, I have a fairly high IQ so I understand the jokes. /s (God I hope the explicit sarcasm tag isn’t needed.)
- downpunxx ( @downpunxx@kbin.social ) 9•1 year ago
The quality of Rick and Morty fell off a cliff two seasons ago, and I chalked it up to everything being fucked up by the pandemic. Then I figured there was turnover in the writers room, and stories about how Justin was working on other projects more. Then after the news came out about Roiland, and the court case, it all finally made sense. Rick and Morty sucked shit the last two seasons, and I fear that Roiland was THE essential piece that made it all come together so perfectly. I’ll tune in and check it out the next time they roll our new eps, but going by the last two seasons, I think we had our shining brilliant perfect moment in the sun, and I’m not sure it’s coming back.
Holy crap I read the whole thread and article to find out there’s no new thing here - its the same news as earlier this year.
I misread the title as “‘rick and morty’ gives up on recasting process . . “ and thought they were going to kill off the characters or something. Nope. No news.
That’s the waaayyy the news goes
“Soundalikes” never sound alike enough. It would be easy to write a story where their voices are permanently changed. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but as of now, I’m thinking they should have just worked with the change instead of trying to pretend it didn’t happen.