Seems like I’m getting 3 reactions to this map:
- Neat map
- I don’t understand this map
- I will find you and kill your family for this crime against data
- yuun ( @yuun@lemmy.one ) 21•1 year ago
cannot believe how many people are confused that the use blocks aren’t showing use in that location, just size in relation to the size of the country
- UnverifiedAPK ( @UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
Wait what? Oh God that’s a horrible way to lay out data
- WhyIDie ( @WhyIDie@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
it’s not a monstrosity, but I kinda agree that pooling the blocks together and overlaying it directly onto a map implies a geographical link with the usage
- Steeve ( @Steeve@lemmy.ca ) 12•1 year ago
I’d say put me under #3, but I’d need you to draw me a map and we all know how that went last time
- pythonoob ( @pythonoob@programming.dev ) 3•1 year ago
Sick burn
- bitsplease ( @bitsplease@lemmy.ml ) 38•1 year ago
Because everyone else is shitting on it - I just wanna let you know OP that I actually liked this map
- LiesSlander ( @LiesSlander@beehaw.org ) 33•1 year ago
“Food we eat” is half the size of “livestock feed”. Plus look at how small wetlands/deserts are, wetlands especially are essential to climate resillience. What egregiously bad land use, wow. Thanks for this post, it’s great.
- inasaba ( @inasaba@lemmy.ml ) 16•1 year ago
It takes 76% less land for us to just eat plants, rather than to grow them to feed to animals that we then in turn eat. Really amazing how inefficient it is.
- KevonLooney ( @KevonLooney@lemm.ee ) 8•1 year ago
It’s just wrong though. Deserts are particularly huge in the West. Essentially the whole states of Arizona and New Mexico, plus parts of Utah and Nevada.
They’re probably inside the “parks” part.
- PaupersSerenade ( @PaupersSerenade@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
I think you might be on to something with the parks idea. I know California has a Protection Act on the books that covers ours.
- PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 32•1 year ago
Why isn’t parking on here?
- Smatt ( @Smatt@lemmy.ca ) 11•1 year ago
!fuck_cars@lemmy.ml is leaking.
- jimrob4 ( @jimrob4@midwest.social ) 7•1 year ago
Oh great, the “everyone lives in cities and I have no concept of rural living” people are here now too.
Awww, ya’ll are butthurt and downvoting me for pointing out not everyone has access to mass transportation or reliable shopping within three blocks of their house.
- andruid ( @andruid@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year ago
Rual, as in my lively hood is based on the land I live on/near or “rual” as in a suburb built in the green way, but I still do the rest of my work and living in the city?
- jimrob4 ( @jimrob4@midwest.social ) 4•1 year ago
Rural as in the nearest town with more than 30,000 people is 90 miles away.
- asdfwqer1234wqer ( @asdfwqer1234wqer@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
The “80% of the us population” crowd is here. So cringe.
- jimrob4 ( @jimrob4@midwest.social ) 2•1 year ago
Yeah, cause fuck those of us who don’t live in cities, right?
- 4ce ( @4ce@lemm.ee ) 9•1 year ago
Streets aren’t really mentioned either, besides “Rural highways”. I assume other streets and parking spaces are mostly included in “Urban/Rural housing” and/or “Urban commercial” (smaller rural streets might not be counted seperately from the surrounding land).
- altasshet ( @altasshet@lemmy.ca ) 3•1 year ago
That was the first thing I was looking for too.
- Akasazh ( @Akasazh@feddit.nl ) 27•1 year ago
I’d suggest a merger between ‘100 largest landowning families’ and ‘Food we eat’.
- nromdotcom ( @nromdotcom@beehaw.org ) 20•1 year ago
It is absolutely blowing my mind how many people are looking at this and thinking that is trying to show, like, primary land use per block on the map or something?
Like it’s well-known that maple syrup comes exclusively from northwest PA, plus all the logging that happens in downtown San Francisco and LA.
Every single home is in the northeast
- Sharkwellington ( @Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ) 2•1 year ago
Is this a glorified pie chart? Follow-up question: Why is this not just an actual pie chart?
- 1993_toyota_camry ( @1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org ) 11•1 year ago
the idea is to show that X land use consumes an area equivalent to an easily recognizable state-area
- yuun ( @yuun@lemmy.one ) 9•1 year ago
the added context of the US map gives it some utility that a pie chart, which is just straight trash, does not have
a bar graph or even just a table would convey similar information more precisely and usefully, but if your only goal is to give an intuitive sense of the land use (not writing policy or anything here) it suits
- N509 ( @N509@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
Pie charts are useless in general.
For the example shown here there are way too many categories for a pie chart. You would not be able to see anything past the top 3 or so categories as the slices get too thin and the labels would be all over the place.
Lastly you would miss out on the size comparisons to e.g. states.
This is much better.
- el_seano ( @el_seano@lemmy.ml ) 14•1 year ago
I resent the hell out of that golf pimple.
- verbalbotanics ( @verbalbotanics@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Sounds like we need to make a c/fuckgolf
- heimchen ( @heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•1 year ago
Absolutely
- 4815162342 ( @4815162342@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year ago
.
- deadh34d ( @deadh34d@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
You must live in Augusta too, huh?
- TendieMaster69 ( @TendieMaster69@midwest.social ) 14•1 year ago
Thanks for giving me a shitty graph and then a source to a paywalled article.
Here’s non-paywall https://web.archive.org/web/20230316140810/https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/
Anytime
- voxel ( @vox@sopuli.xyz ) 3•1 year ago
uae bypass paywalls clean, works wonders on that website
- PatFusty ( @PatFussy@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
How much is native reservations
- Empricorn ( @Empricorn@feddit.nl ) 10•1 year ago
I hate, hate, HATE this. It implies the main land-use is the only use. Do people in the Midwest simply commute 2,000 miles a day, since that’s where the housing is? This belongs in c/UglyInaccurateData…
- 4ce ( @4ce@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
It seems you’re misunderstanding the map. It’s how much space each of those categories is taking up as a fraction of the total area of the contiguous US, not where that land use primarily occurs.
- Snapz ( @Snapz@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
You’re mis, mis MISUNDERSTANDING this map.
- Tigbitties ( @Tigbitties@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
What’s a weirghourhdmsjrhrht?
- Johandea ( @Johandea@feddit.nu ) 6•1 year ago
It’s not really the USA without Alaska (and other extracontinental territories, but their landmass probably isn’t large enough to change anything).
Or is Alaska included, which would make the presentation of the data even more confusion as it wouldn’t even be too scale.
- inasaba ( @inasaba@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
The original article does specify contiguous US.
- terabytes ( @terabytes@lemm.ee ) 6•1 year ago
I have to tell you, there’s plenty of farmed land on the entire west coast this map does not depict. Less than half of the areas labeled timberlands are forested, as a generous estimate.
Edit: as the comments under this state, I just didn’t understand what was being represented and how.
- Linnce ( @Linnce@beehaw.org ) 7•1 year ago
I don’t think this map shows where those things are, just how big they are in total. I’m not from the USA but I’m guessing there isn’t just one gigantic ass national park up north and no more parks anywhere else.
- Azzy ( @AzzyDev@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
You’re very much right! About 30/50 of our states have a national park, and every state has state parks. For example, Nebraska has only 8, while California has a whopping 284! The mean though is 45.6, which is still quite high.
- SokathHisEyesOpen ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
California also uses their lands for wildfires, they even have a fire season now. Don’t forget to give credit where credit is due!
- rusticus1773 ( @rusticus1773@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot “food we eat”?
Field corn and soybeans are STRICTLY for animal (specifically cow, pig sheep and chicken) consumption. Food we eat is from California.
- Psynthesis ( @Psynthesis@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year ago
It doesn’t represent state by state.
- squiblet ( @squiblet@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
yeah, I’m pretty sure there’s some agriculture going on in California, which produces 50% of the nation’s produce. Florida too (“landowning families” isn’t a use?). Also we eat corn from the central Midwest, and lots of wheat from Dakotas and Minnesota.
- Azzy ( @AzzyDev@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Don’t forget pumpkin! The Midwest produces much of the world’s pumpkin, I think Illinois alone makes about 85%, but I may be wrong on that figure.