But Linus Sex Tips said linux is bad, bro! I tried Ubuntu one time like 10 years ago and it wasn’t Windows, so now I hate Linux bro
Literally what everyone tells me: I tried it 8 years ago and it sucked (used really weird distro or Ubuntu)
Linus tech tips, despite having some criticisms, had a rather positive opinion of Linux as far as I can remember
It can’t even wun micwodowt owwice :(
It can’t even run [popular proprietary software]! How am I supposed to [action which can be performed with FOSS]?
What are the names of those? I only recognize Wine (“Wine Is Not an Emulator”)
Well there is
- Vulkan (graphics API, successor to OpenGL which was used by e.g. Minecraft, CS Go i believe)
- DXVK (compatibility layer for games created with the DirectX Framework by MS)
- Lutris (game launcher for stuff you bought outside of steam, e.g. GOG, Epic, Uplay, etc.)
- Steam and maybe Proton but idk.
- the atom thing could be protondb.com, where you can look up if your game will run on linux and what fixes / commands are available
Thanks! protondb sounds like a very handy website
It surely is, it has also been really great to see the growing support for all those games over the last years. Sad to see some games still being borked with no valid reason (Pubg e.g., with the developers stating the game can run on linux with no problems at all, they still will block it bc they are scared of hackers or some other lame excuse).
Every problem I had playing games on Linux could be fixed by some kind stranger on there offering a command or sth. else (sometimes even stuff thats not related to linux at all lol)
There’s also a great decky plugin that adds protondb badges and links directly to all your games on the deck. Really helps figure out any small tweaks you should use to maximize frames and will also mark games as silver/gold/platinum even if valve hasn’t marked them as supported yet.
Sure is! Almost every game that doesn’t run well out of the box has a fix there.
Proton is a fork of Wine. It was created by Valve and they have done amazing work getting it to support basically everything. It’s made the steam deck and amazing machine.
Proton actually combines Wine and DXVK iirc (plus some extra bits and pieces.)
Linus gaming got simple when steam dropped steamOS as a stand alone operating system. I went from windows 7 to steamOS. First was the steam piston, now I have a steam machine (Alienware / dell) and a steam deck. It’s as easy as console gaming but with all the flexibility of PC gaming.
And before I get shit for prebuilts, sometimes you just want to play, and shit just works. Also am poor.
am poor
own Alienware PC and Steam deck
Yeah… that’s not what being poor is.
I mean if you want to be pandantic owning a computer for gaming excludes you from being poor. Otherwise, if we’re doing cost relative to performance, you can pick up an alienware alpha for cost of the graphics card.
Depends on what you mean by “computer for gaming”. You pretty much need a computer at home for school work, printing and sending documents, maybe even some work from home. A lot of this can be done with a phone or tablet nowadays, but that wasn’t the case 5 years ago, which is why lots of people have an old-ish computer. And yes, this computer can be used to play games, not all the newer ones, but still plenty of games.
If you have a dedicated, modern and expensive computer only for games (and note that this includes consoles), yeah that definitely does exclude you from being poor.
Are they still making new steam machines?
YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT TRAINS?
no?
ok sorry
Been gaming on Linux for years, currently I use Play On Linux and Steam.
I remember the days you had to compile your own wine to get something working.
And those wine fixme in the console, it felt like the game was being held together with string.
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I made the switch to Linux a year ago, and I haven’t looked back since. Of course, I still keep a dual boot for those pesky games that use Ring0 anticheat or are simply incompatible with Linux, like Fortnite or PUBG. But honestly, I don’t find myself playing them as often anymore. My current actual go-to games include Dota 2, CS:GO, Elden Ring, Sea of Thieves, Diablo 4, Street Fighter 6, Dead Cells, and Isaac.
Hmm I find that the performance gain on games like D4 and Elden Ring are significant enough for me to boot over to my windows disk (much to my chagrin). Do you have any specific tweaks for those games. The performance isn’t always terrible for those games on my Linux system but it’s enough to affect gameplay occasionally.
I don’t rely on special settings; instead, I ensure that I have the latest Mesa driver installed for my 7900XTX. Additionally, I optimize my gaming experience by using a set of launch settings that work well for most of my games, with minor adjustments made to the RADV_PERFTEST environment variable. These are the launch settings I use :
VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.i686.json:/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.x86_64.json AMD_VULKAN_ICD=RADV RADV_PERFTEST=sam,rt,gpl,nggc,aco gamemoderun %command%
about wine/proton, I want to share some advice: if anyone is struggling with installing 3rd party mods and such in Proton, try starting your installation process from ConEmu (ConEmu64.exe) (It’s a simple, open-source, portable terminal emulator for Windows) instead of pointing the Non-steam Games wizard at each installation and gaming exe individually.
I originally tried to do this with the explorer.exe built into Wine, but getting that thing to launch is a pain.
for example a lot of Windows programs will have you download an .exe that installs the program, then you need to run a different .exe to actually run the program. Steam’s non-steam game wizard in combination with Proton gets confused by this and runs the two .exe’s in separate environments, screwing with any attempts to install a mod or install the app itself.
Protontricks also helps here.
TF u guys mean i just play 25 y/o games
Morrowind goes brr
I don’t think I’ve found a game that doesn’t work with Proton. I only find ones where the property anti cheat doesn’t work.
I’m kicking myself because I wanna switch to Linux but I just bought a used Nvidia card
So? I am using linux (arch btw) with a 3090 without problems.
3080ti on fedora here and no issues either
I am using a 1080 Ti and its meh, I sometimes have screen tearing issues, sleep/hibernate doesn’t work anymore and letting it choose the iGPU and GPU based off of the current needs also does not work, so I just run the iGPU most of the time (it doesn’t have the screen tearing issue).
I’m thinking of doing a fresh install, maybe a different distro, as the setup is quite old and bloated by now, but I’m not looking forward to reinstalling everything I actually need/use.
I use a GTX 970, I can play most games just fine.
It’s not Windows performance, Cyberpunk 2077 for instance was quite more unstable for me on Arch and it took quite a bit of tweaking to be able to launch it (it’s a miracle that I can even play Cyberpunk with a 970 in both cases :P). Generally though I’ve had a pretty good experience, most games play out of the box with good performance, and I get to daily drive Linux finally
Cyberpunk can run on a 1050 Mobile. We are making the game seem a much larger beast.
It can run yeah, but it’s not a playable performance at all. A friend of mine played a bit of Cyberpunk with a 1050 on Windows, all the latest drivers and a relatively good build other than the graphics card, but he quickly got tired from running it with 20-30 FPS (all settings on low with 720p)
Didn’t find it myself as an issue. I play a LOT of older 3D titles (3D Nintendo Switch games), and most are locked at 30 or even 25.
But am I mistaken, or I remember Cyberpunk being more about CPU than GPU? I got an Intel i7-8750H
It is very CPU heavy but also made for next gen graphics cards, and 20-30 fps is way too little for a fast paced first person game
I have a Nvidia Tesla K80 and couldn’t even set it up on Windows
Why would that be a problem?
Compiling Vulkan shaders… (57%)
Its shader compilation that made elden ring at launch a better experience on linux than windows, because the windows build had a broken shader compiler causing microstutters.
I’m super interested in running Linux, do you think it’s okay to just dump windows at once and go full Linux, or it’s better to dual boot for a while? I’ve read that dual-booting can be a bit finicky, but it’s been a while since I looked into it
Dual booting isnt that finnicky. Just dual boot until youre certain that there’s nothing you need in your life that you cant get running under Linux. I dont understand why everyone wants you to switch so quickly when there is no harm in going at your own pace.
When I switched to linux I originally intended to dualboot but I messed up the partitioning and completely obliterated windows. Decided to just go with it and I never looked back.
I did that more than once hahaha. Hell, you guys are convincing me to jump the boat!
for me it was the opposite, I did a fresh install and -against all advice- installed linux before windows.
When a few months later a windows update dexided to fuck with and destroy grub again (and reinstall edge) I saw that as a sign to kick out windows.
From what I heard you have to use windows boot manager instead as windows just breaks grub whenever there’s an update. It broke my Fedora before but I didn’t get a chance to test it as I fully switched to nobara.
Edit: @mahrimba@beehaw.org in case you want to try it out
SSDs got so cheap, I just added another one for Linux.
You’re going to hear a lot of recommendations, but I strongly suggest going with Fedora for your first distro. It’s the least pain to get up and running with a modern, performant, up to date distro.
Ubuntu these days is its own little corner of design choices, Arch is designed to need configuration, Debian is a (purposefully) a bit slow to keep up. A lot of people say good things about Linux Mint, haven’t used it myself but have used Fedora for years (including at work) and it’s rock solid without much faffing.
Mint is like if Ubuntu wasn’t so… Ubuntuey.
I’ve tried Ubuntu before but never stuck with it, maybe Fedora will grab my interest! Is it easy to customize? I’m mostly focused in art, web development and gaming, do you think it’s a good fit?
those requirements seem to specify the desktop environment, which sounds like you’d want KDE or Xfce, for the customizable taskbars and for the window management shenanigans associated with gaming. (games often force window dimensions or force full-screen, which screws with Gnome Desktop somewhat.)
I recommend Debian specifically because it’s slow to keep up, and most people just don’t need the latest features anyway. Especially if you’re new to Linux, stability is important.
It’s great for a server system but I find it less great for a desktop environment. Hardware support take longer to get to the kernel, UI improvements take longer to get to the desktop etc.
You should dump windows as soon as possible, the list of reasons to keep using it are getting shorter and shorter as this meme implies.
I recommend using POP!_OS from System76 as they package the latest LTS kernel (6.2 as of writing) and graphics drivers. Obtaining applications (even proprietary clients like Steam) is made trivial through flatpaks and system76’s own software repos which are all accessible through the POP! Shop.
POP!_OS seems promising! It seems to be very easy to setup! Is it customizable enough? I’d like to try things out a bit, without worrying about screwing the entire system. Thanks for the recs! 💜
POP!_OS is very customizable as it is built off of GNOME 42 with system76’s own COSMIC patches built into the desktop. You can use GNOME extensions like “Just Perfection” which will give you direct control over GNOME’s desktop UI components.
I recommended POP!_OS because it’s the most out-of-the-box GNU/Linux system. You can use POP!_OS as a daily driver and as a learning tool for Linux. I currently use POP!_OS right now on my laptop and gaming pc (with a proprietary nvidia card) after a year of not using it and I’m still kicking myself over glossing over it.
I use Arch (btw) and I can’t recommend this enough. But it might seem intimidating at first, so I recommend Manjaro, it’s like Arch but a bit friendlier to beginners
I use dualboot because I still have to use Windows for some shit, and it works like a charm
Just partition off and install steamOS. Its Linux gaming but super easy to use.
If you’re going to be playing games I use Nobara, which is a fork of Fedora meant for gaming.
Well there is
- Vulkan (graphics API, successor to OpenGL which is used by e.g. Minecraft, CS Go i believe)
- DXVK (compatibility layer for games created with the DirectX Framework by MS)
- Lutris (game launcher for stuff you bought outside of steam, e.g. GOG, Epic, Uplay, etc.)
- Steam and maybe Proton but idk.
- i don’t know what that Atom sign thingy is
ProtonDB
Yes thats it, thx
Whats the electron looking thing?
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Maybe just give it a try? It’s pretty fun to test on an older machine and it is pretty easy to learn the basics of Linux. And if you are interested, it is a great rabbit-hole to get drawn into ;)
