He says X is for freedom of speech, and it is an everything app
but, freedom can’t exist without privacy.
Everything app = monopoly = all in one
- stevecrox ( @stevecrox@kbin.social ) 79•11 months ago
Your posting this on KBin which implements the twitter style fediverse API and federates with Mastodon.
Click the microblog button … Behold twitter replacement
- Pons_Aelius ( @Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ) 28•11 months ago
One does not have to switch from something that was never used.
Twitter has been a short form outrage machine since the beginning.
- flatbield ( @furrowsofar@beehaw.org ) 10•11 months ago
The interesting thing about Twitter is how it shows how a significant part of our society works. It is kind of about amplifying fame and suggesting that we should all cares about meaningless 240 character posts or what these guys think.
That news media types love Twitter is kind of an indictment of how news works.
- Pons_Aelius ( @Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
Humans have neolithic hunter-gather brains and emotional reactions, medieval civil intuitions while using tech that borders on magic.
Twitter used to call itself the town square, and it is/was just like the square of old. Dominated by those that yelled the loudest and longest.
- Itty53 ( @Itty53@kbin.social ) 4•11 months ago
This is a wildly over generalized take.
Twitter was also an important tool for journalists and researchers worldwide. Military targets have come from Twitter posts. It is a reflection of a huge chunk of society. You may as well call all of internet technology “just a porn box” for how wildly over generalized that statement is. The reality is your generalization comes from arrogance. “I never engaged in such frivolous behavior”. You’re here now. Yes you have and yes you do.
Even your comment is the first cousin of outrage, it’s pure disdain. Nothing more or less, and exactly as valuable as outrage.
- Jarmer ( @Jarmer@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
That’s not really true. When it first came out, before the ads, before the algorithm, when they embraced 3rd party apps with an open api, it was really great. It was full of techy personalities and interesting folks. Hashtags were fun to follow, live events were amazing in real time, so much more. That was before it got inundated with politics and celebrities though. I think that honeymoon phase only lasted a tiny while, then it all went downhill into the outrage machine pretty quickly. But for a quick minute there, it was glorious.
- starlinguk ( @starlinguk@kbin.social ) 11•11 months ago
I’ve been on Mastodon since October last year.
Don’t get the official app, get Tusky. Then look under “federated” and follow the people you like. You can also search for a particular topic and follow that topic instead.
- donuts ( @donuts@kbin.social ) 6•11 months ago
I second following hashtags when you first start out on Mastodon. It’s probably the best method of discovery right now, since there is no algorithm feeding you constantly.
- soundasleep ( @soundasleep@kbin.social ) 6•11 months ago
Mastodon, easily Mastodon. I love it!
- andyMFK ( @andyMFK@reddthat.com ) 6•11 months ago
I’ve never understood exactly what people get out of Twitter, and don’t understand why you’d need an alternative? Why not just use Lemmy as your alternative?
- verysoft ( @verysoft@kbin.social ) 10•11 months ago
News and updates from specific companies/projects/people.
How people always fail to see the usefulness of the platform amazes me. There is nothing else like it for that purpose, moving elsewhere is difficult if all the accounts you are interested in are not also moving there.
- Kaldo ( @Kaldo@kbin.social ) 5•11 months ago
Exactly, if you block enough and follow the right people the twitter feed is a pretty good place to get news and content. Hard to get that on mastodon since, well… no algorithm to actually show these things to you, no people to actually follow and no time to read everything chronologically.
- verysoft ( @verysoft@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
Its definitely a lot worse now, but at its peak twitter algorithm worked pretty well, not that I ever used it, always did the standard chronological, but I wasn’t following 100s of accounts anyway.
Had to setup RSS again now, but its not the same as it used to be, harder to find decent blogs with the news/updates I want that support RSS.
- Gamma ( @GammaGames@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
Been on mastodon since last year and never had a drought of content 🤷♂️ It’s only grown since then
- b1ab ( @b1ab@lem.monster ) 5•11 months ago
Exactly.
Not everyone is on twitter for the political bullshit. Using banned words it’s easy to filter any political garbage. Twitter is quite useful. But I’m not there to convince or push my ideology on a bunch of polarized people. What a waste of energy.
- Gordon_Freeman ( @Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
News and updates from specific companies/projects/people
So let’s say I’m interested in tech. I got my news and updates from tech oriented websites/blogs, with the added benefits of tutorials and other articles also posted there, why would I want to use twitter?
- verysoft ( @verysoft@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
Then that’s great for you. Setup RSS and you are away.
But not everyone has their own website/blog and they use twitter instead.
- flatbield ( @furrowsofar@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
Twitter is for those that either want to be the one that people follow or those that want to follow the one. It is about fame and groupies. If your not in one of those groups you will not see value. I am not so I see no value.
The above is why there is not Twitter substitute for most Twitter users. Exception is if Blue or Threads takes off.
- heyfluxay ( @heyfluxay@nerdbin.social ) 4•11 months ago
I tried out Mastodon last November and it was the perfect alternative for me. Connecting with more interesting people each week and I am loving the experience still to this day.
I have several friends that still use Twitter but discord has been the solution to keep in touch. Haven’t been able to delete my accounts yet.
- AndreTelevise ( @AndreTelevise@kbin.social ) 4•11 months ago
Mastodon and Firefish have been good alternatives for me, not to mention, they’re part of the same fediverse as KBin
- Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 3•11 months ago
You’re still on twitter? Why?
Currently looking for alternative I guess
- Polar ( @Polar@lemmy.ca ) 5•11 months ago
Mastodon. Seems like the logical choice, considering you’re already on the fediverse, and a lot of people already moved to Mastodon when Musk bought Twitter.
I found it hard to get interaction
- starlinguk ( @starlinguk@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
Download Tusky and find people in the federated tab. Also search for topics and follow those.
- 8BitFriendly ( @8BitFriendly@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
Start following tags and people, even if you don’t know them very well.
- leaskovski ( @leaskovski@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
Can you do this in kbin?
- Chris ( @floppy@rabbitea.rs ) 2•11 months ago
People, yes. Tags, not directly but if you follow kbin magazines most have related tags attached and you’ll get microblog content matching those tags in your feed.
- livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
Yes click on microblogs and you will see a ton of mastodon content. If you see someone ypu want to follow, you can.
Also if you’re in a mag that has selected tags the microblog section of that mag is just whatever is posted on mastodons under those tags.
- wallmenis ( @wallmenis@lemmy.one ) 1•11 months ago
If we get enough people, you can get your interaction
- PabloDiscobar ( @PabloDiscobar@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
An alternative to do what exactly? To just follow people? What about you follow no one?
DM, blog posting, no censorship plz
- Pons_Aelius ( @Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
no censorship plz
Sorry but that is a farcical expectation. All sites will have rules about what can and cannot be posted and will have to follow the laws of the country the server is based in.
- lemonflavoured ( @lemonflavoured@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
I’ve been using Mastodon a bit more, and I do also have a Threads account.
- loobkoob ( @loobkoob@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
I’m curious: why are you using Mastodon when you’re a kbin user already? Why not just use the microblogging aspect of kbin? It’s even federated with Mastodon!
- lemonflavoured ( @lemonflavoured@kbin.social ) 5•11 months ago
I was using Mastodon before Kbin.
- loobkoob ( @loobkoob@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
That’s a good reason!
- Retronautickz ( @retronautickz@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
The microblog part of kbin doesn’t federates as well and lacks a lot of features that the mainly microblogging software have.
Having had a kbin account and accounts on Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey and Firefish. It’s definitely not the same.
Kbin microblogging aspects are too limited in comparison.
- DarkThoughts ( @DarkThoughts@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
Nothing, because I never had a use for Twitter in the first place.
But the obvious fediverse alternative would be Mastodon. Decentralized, open source and you can use it even to communicate with kbin. - Hypnos ( @Hypnos@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
I recommend Mastodon!
- readbeanicecream ( @readbeanicecream@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
#kbin which is like reddit + twitter. Somethings I post as threads (like reddit) some things I post as posts (like twitter). Then I hop between the two when reading. Posts fall under microblogs and federates with Mastodon. So it is like having thing I need in one account.
- nicetriangle ( @nicetriangle@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
Mastodon obviously but also giving bluesky a shot
- ARealDinosaur ( @ARealDinosaur@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
I want to move to bluesky so bad but I just can’t get a damn invite. I applied via email months ago. This is their moment & I kinda feel like the invite system is holding them back. (But I do understand why it was implemented.)
Edit: omg you guys are so sweet. I only just started using this place but I’m sold. You’re awesome!
- nicetriangle ( @nicetriangle@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
I have 2 extra, will DM you
- ARealDinosaur ( @ARealDinosaur@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
I think I replied to your DM but I’m still learning so just in case: YOU ARE AMAZING TYSM!!!
- nicetriangle ( @nicetriangle@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
DM recieved and no problem! Hope you dig it over there. I haven’t dived in too deep but it seems promising
- effingjoe ( @effingjoe@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
It’s very… dramatic over there, and I know it’s supposed to be a beta (trust me, I know) but there seems to be a lot of missing functionality. I pop in every few days and it’s like there a new moral outrage about bluesky each time.
- nicetriangle ( @nicetriangle@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
I mostly follow people in the art/illustration community so I’m not really seeing what you’re complaining about, but to be fair your complaint could be levied against basically every big online community out there right now including the fediverse.
- effingjoe ( @effingjoe@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
I am mostly judging by the “hot” feed, since I only follow a few people that I knew via Twitter, and to a significant degree you’re right-- there was the same kind of drama on kbin and lemmy when I joined. (I checked out threads for ~30 seconds so I can’t say about there) I don’t remember anything like that on Mastodon, but I’m sure it’s there. It seemed more rapid-fire on bluesky. Specifically there seemed to be a lot of hate against the devs on Bluesky for various reasons.
In any event, it’s a pretty big echo chamber right now but that’s to be expected while it’s in invite-only. I’m sure it will settle out when it opens up to the general public.
- heyfluxay ( @heyfluxay@nerdbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
Remind me, get invites every 2 weeks and I can get you one.
- ARealDinosaur ( @ARealDinosaur@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
Thank you so much!! I actually just got one but you are so sweet for offering!
- Kondoriano ( @Kondoriano@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
I’ve also been wanting to try Bluesky would anyone have any invites available?
- ARealDinosaur ( @ARealDinosaur@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
I just got in but when I get invites I’ll come back if nobody else has yet!
- Retronautickz ( @retronautickz@beehaw.org ) 2•11 months ago
I’ve had a Mastodon account since 2018, but I officially moved from twitter last year. I also have a firefish/calckey account and and akkoma one.
I prefer Firefish. Its features allow me to use it as a mix of twitter and tumblr. For something extrictly twitter-like, I’ll go for Akkoma as I find Mastodon to be lacking some important characteristics and its minimalistic design to be uninviting.
- Ragnell ( @Ragnell@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
Moved my Mastodon account over to Firefish for the features.