- StingJay ( @StingJay@lemmy.ml ) English43•1 year ago
They associated the debris they found earlier to be from the sub which pretty much confirms the implosion.
- other_world ( @other_world@lemmy.ml ) English41•1 year ago
I’d definitely choose to die that way over asphyxiation or dehydration.
- StingJay ( @StingJay@lemmy.ml ) English5•1 year ago
100%
- LDRMS ( @LDRMS@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
100% agree here. But then again, you wouldn’t catch me in a tiny enclosed space God knows how deep, no thanks. I’ll look at titanic videos on youtube.
- wildeaboutoskar ( @wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
Hopefully the families take some solace in the fact that they likely didn’t suffer
- toxic ( @toxic@kbin.social ) 0•1 year ago
But isn’t the asphyxiation here on the levels of, you end up falling asleep and don’t wake up again. It’s not to the degree of you’re choking to death and can’t do anything about it.
- phosphorik ( @phosphorik@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
I don’t think so. You’d feel the carbon dioxide building up in your muscles over time, it would be awful. That and the mind-destroying existential terror. I’d take the sudden crush depth exposure, thanks.
- MrFunnyMoustache ( @MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
The peaceful death you are talking about is from lack of oxygen, but when you’re in an enclosed space, there is CO2 buildup, and when you get too much CO2 it makes your blood slightly more acidic, which makes you feel an intense urge to breathe and you’ll die before running out of oxygen. That’s a terrible way to die.
- arefx ( @arefx@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year ago
You would certainly be in a lot of discomfort and panic for a few minutes. Awful for sure.
The issue I imagine is the stress and horror of being trapped in a coffin for several days beforehand.
- blitzen ( @blitzen@lemmy.ml ) English10•1 year ago
I’ve got no love for billionaires, and obviously this story overshadowing the migrant boat sinking in Greece is infuriating, but I’m really not a fan of the glee so many people on social media are expressing at the deaths of these five people.
Also, on another note, I seriously cannot get over the fact that the late CEO of the company, Stockton Rush, has the absolute perfect team name for a minor league football team from central California.
- Elroy_Berdahl ( @Elroy_Berdahl@feddit.uk ) English7•1 year ago
I agree, a lot of people in threads in the fediverse are taking way too much pleasure in 5 people dying. I get not being a fan of billionaires - no one should be - but not everyone aboard was a billionaire, and even if they were it’s just so incredibly callous to take joy in people dying in an accident. Have a base level of empathy for crying out loud.
Part of the reason I loved moving to Lemmy from reddit was getting away from reddit’s toxicity, I hope we don’t bring it with us.
- seesaw ( @seesaw@lemmy.ml ) English2•1 year ago
Complaining about non-existing things is a new phenomenon on the internet I guess. I haven’t seen a single person cheering about the billionaires’ death but I’ve seen dozens of people complaining about people cheering about their deaths.
It’s like those upvoted comments in reddit threads where people say “number of comments in this thread about XX is disgusting” and you look for those comments and cannot find any.
- hardypart ( @hardypart@feddit.de ) English2•1 year ago
This is indeed an annoying reddit / internet thing. It’s nothing but shit stirring.
- Elroy_Berdahl ( @Elroy_Berdahl@feddit.uk ) English0•1 year ago
That’s just one from this thread. In other news threads the top two comments were people saying “good riddance” or something similar. I’d screenshot those for you as well but I now can’t find the threads in my feed because the feed updated and they got pushed down to god knows where.
- seesaw ( @seesaw@lemmy.ml ) English2•1 year ago
I mean if you specifically look for it you can of course find them, you can find people cheering for dead puppies and kittens too, there are maniacs everywhere. Thing is it’s far from being an overall attitude, it’s really really minority.
- szczur ( @szczur@kbin.social ) 7•1 year ago
Well, it’s a tragic example on how capitalism really ruins things for everyone. The OceanGate drama should have been the wake up call. But it wasn’t and these people are dead. And they get infinietly more media coverage than hundreds of souls lost in Pylos.
What a fucked up world we live in.
- Harry ( @Harry@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
The juxtaposition of a sub full if 1%ers going on a joy dive vs hundreds of people desperately trying to get to a safe land is stunning.
- relative_iterator ( @relative_iterator@kbin.social ) 0•1 year ago
Must we do the comparisons? The sub story was simply more interesting. It’s not some media conspiracy, unless the media is already controlling the upvotes on kbin lol
Perhaps not a conspiracy, but doesn’t it say something about our culture that we find it more interesting?
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
Yeah, this comparison is getting really strained. As the Joker once said:
Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan.” But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
A sunken ship filled with hundreds of migrants in the Mediterranean is, horrifyingly, a routine thing. It’s “part of the plan.” But a billionaire in a minisub possibly stranded on the Titanic? That’s newsworthy. Yes, it sucks, but it’s human nature and some battles are just impossible to win under the current circumstances.
- wildeaboutoskar ( @wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
The main difference is that the Pylos tragedy forces us to confront heavy issues that are politically fraught. Oceangate doesn’t have the same context. Even though most of us are more likely to be closer to the people on that ship than the billionaires on the sub, it’s easier to digest the Oceangate story. Maybe because of the distance, it seems like more of a plot of a film, whereas the boat incident is a humanitarian disaster.
- cyd ( @cyd@vlemmy.net ) English7•1 year ago
I’m just surprised Elon Musk didn’t find a way to inject himself into this story somehow, like he did with the Thai cave rescue.
- pdlrd:// ( @poudlardo@terefere.eu ) English1•1 year ago
Wait for his next move : Sea X
- LostCause ( @LostCause@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Can‘t believe all the waste of resources to look at some trash on the ocean floor, die, search the whole place, then find some more trash on the ocean floor. Climate is doomed.
Only good headline I read today is the orcas now attack boats, at least they try to fight before going extinct, admirable effort.
- EnderWi99in ( @EnderWi99in@kbin.social ) 9•1 year ago
I see Reddit is leaking.
- Entropywins ( @Entropywins@kbin.social ) 11•1 year ago
I believe it was the sub that leaked…
- FreeDiverX ( @FreeDiverX@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
A shocking development considering they took a submersible with a viewport rated for 1,300 meters to the Titanic which is at 4,000 meters. 🤔
The critiques from Mr. Lochridge and the experts who signed the 2018 letter to Mr. Rush were focused in part on what they characterized as Mr. Rush’s refusal to have the Titan inspected and certified by one of the leading agencies that do such work.
Mr. Lochridge reported in court records that he had urged the company to do so, but that he had been told that OceanGate was “unwilling to pay” for such an assessment.
- CoughCool ( @CoughCool@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
you don’t say?
Anyhow, back in the rest of the world: the rent is high, groceries are expensive, and the world is burning - driver_pro ( @driver_pro@kbin.social ) 0•1 year ago
So incredibly sad.
- corm ( @corm@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
Is it though? I feel the same way I do when I hear another base jumper, parkour influencer, or wing suit junkie died.
“Yep, makes sense.”
- HuddaBudda ( @HuddaBudda@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
There is a certain amount of empathy I want to have about the situation. Because at the end of the day, someone lost a loved one.
But there is also a bit of poetic justice when someone visits the wreck of a ship that played a large role in making sure ships were safer in case of catastrophic failure.
Only to ignore those procedures and end up right next to it.
- phosphorik ( @phosphorik@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
I think it’s sad, but not as sad as when people die who weren’t daring the universe to do it.
- EnderWi99in ( @EnderWi99in@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
Are you really looking to argue with someone about how they should feel?