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BrikoX ( BrikoX@lemmy.zip )  to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

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Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

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BrikoX ( BrikoX@lemmy.zip )  to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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A man is shot dead in Utah after posting threats online, hours before Joe Biden visits the state.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1255681

Archived version: https://archive.ph/tAw7a
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230809205032/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66457089

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  • exohuman ( exohuman@programming.dev ) 
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    Yeah, umm… what did he think would happen when he threatened the life of a sitting president?

  • KoboldCoterie ( KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ) 
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    Sounds like (purely speculation, since the details aren’t available) he pulled a gun on or otherwise threatened the agents coming to arrest him, based on his other behavior. Told them to come back with a warrant, they did so, and he took issue?

    Either way, posting on the internet about assassinating government officials, regardless of whether it’s serious or not, was probably not the smartest opening move.

    • Landrin201 ( Landrin201@lemmy.ml ) 
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      That won’t stop the far right from turning him into a martyr

      • DarkGamer ( DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 
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        They sure are big on traitors and hostile to the rule of law lately.

        • Zorque ( Zorque@kbin.social ) 
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          Lately?

          • DarkGamer ( DarkGamer@kbin.social ) 
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            The right used to at least pretend to be into law and order.

            • Zorque ( Zorque@kbin.social ) 
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              They still pretend, they just also pretend that the rule of law is different than what it is.

              You know how many far-righters have “back the blue” and thin blue line bumper stickers?

              • CmdrShepard ( CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ) 
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                Yes the same guys who rant about government tyranny yet defend police (government employees/enforcers) at every opportunity love to also rant about the rule of law unless those rules are applied to them or their current flavor of the week messiah.

              • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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                And yet here were are in a thread about the state murdering someone over words and liberals are falling over themselves to “back the blue” hardest.

            • Dubious_Fart ( Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml ) 
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              They were never into law and order.

              They were just into law beating and brutalizing black and poor people.

              • stephen01king ( stephen01king@lemmy.zip ) 
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                He never said they were. He said they pretended to.

            • abraxas ( abraxas@lemmy.ml ) 
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              They’ve always backed conservative cops enforcing conservative laws against “other people” but letting conservatives off with a warning.

      • Dubious_Fart ( Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml ) 
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        They turned a dumb cunt that jumped over a barricade to rush a bunch of men with guns into a martyr.

        They’ll turn this guy into The Jesus to Trumps God.

      • athos77 ( athos77@kbin.social ) 
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        Or from producing more of them.

      • eskimofry ( eskimofry@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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        What you mean that won’t STOP them? That actually STARTs them again!

    • HooPhuckenKarez ( HooPhuckenKarez@kbin.social ) 
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      He must’ve forgotten to add “…in Minecraft.”.

    • NightAuthor ( NightAuthor@beehaw.org ) 
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      “Opening” is quite an interesting word in this context

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      deleted by creator

      • mosiacmango ( mosiacmango@lemm.ee ) 
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        Thats just the official story. What actually happened was that dark biden’s Cyber-Brain picked up the threat, so he used his lazer vision while at a rally in New Mexico to vaporize him.

        The media is totally censoring the thousand mile long lazer beam the president shot out of his eyes. They have the footage, but they are too afraid to tell the truth, because then the Clinton Mutant Teenage Turtles will kill them.

        Read all about it on that guys truth social page.

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    "The complaint said Robertson came to the attention of federal agents in March after he posted a threat against Mr Bragg on Truth Social, the social network owned by Mr Trump. The company alerted the FBI’s National Threat Operations Center.

    FBI agents then visited the suspect, who told them that the post was a “dream” and ended the conversation by saying: “We’re done here! Don’t return without a warrant!”"

    Not only does Truth Social narc on him, but the “dreams” defense was a true sign of just how far gone that asshole was.

    • interdimensionalmeme ( interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I imagine they put him down like a dog after he said that. I also imagine they just killed him first and made up that statement afterwards. Who’s going to contradict the crazed armed murderers, not the dead guy I can tell you that, just ask Fred Hampton.

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    Ok so either he drew a gun on them or they executed him. Well it should be cleared up quickly with body cam footage.

    What’s that? No body cam footage?

    Right, then I’m going to have to assume they executed him while he was surrendering peacefully.

    (I voted for biden, but I also don’t trust the fbi to miss a chance to shoot someone)

    • masterspace ( masterspace@lemmy.ca ) 
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      You can assume it but would you bet any meaningful amount of money on it?

      This guy literally directly threatened to kill FBI agentssfyer they came to talkvto him.

  • treadful ( treadful@lemmy.zip ) 
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    inb4 he’s turned into a martyr.

  • BurnTheRight ( BurnTheRight@kbin.social ) 
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    “Next up on Fox News… The libs have weaponized the FBI and are executing innocent conservatives for exercising their freedumb of speech!”

    • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Yes, the parties of Capital use the state-monopoly on violence to enforce the status quo. How old are you that you don’t realize this?

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    deleted by creator

    • vegai ( vegai@suppo.fi ) 
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      Bullets have value!

  • Jaysyn ( Jaysyn@kbin.social ) 
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    One less fascist symp voting in 2024.

    • ThePac ( ThePac@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Anybody who downvoted your comment can go suck an eeeeeeeeeeeeegg

  • ArxCyberwolf ( Snowpix@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Well if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions. Good riddance.

  • shiveyarbles ( shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 
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    This guy was too stupid to exist… and now he doesn’t

  • donuts ( donuts@kbin.social ) 
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    Fuck Around
    Find Out <----- You are Here

  • happyhippo ( happyhippo@feddit.it ) 
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    He fucked around.

    He found out.

  • Dubious_Fart ( Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Well well well.

    if it isnt the consequences of his actions.

  • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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    So like it’s cool just to murder people exercising their free speech on the internet?

    • JillyB ( JillyB@beehaw.org ) 
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      Credible threats have less free speech protection. But I’m also concerned about this. The article doesn’t have any details about the raid. If they were trying to arrest him and he pulled a gun, then that’s just how it goes. If it was a no-knock raid, then it’s closer to summary execution, in my opinion. Hopefully more details come out about this.

    • EvilColeslaw ( EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org ) 
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      “I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle.”

      “Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist.”

      Those probably cross the line and might not be protected speech. Especially when posted with pictures of the firearms and equipment in question.

      • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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        What line? Where is this line defined? Can you cite some law that he was breaking that necessitated a death-squad to pay him a visit?

        • EvilColeslaw ( EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org ) 
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          Among other possibilities, Utah Code § 76-5-107

          (2) (a) An actor commits a threat of violence if the actor: (i) (A) threatens to commit an offense involving bodily injury, death, or substantial property damage; and (B) acts with intent to place an individual in fear of imminent serious bodily injury, substantial bodily injury, or death; or (ii) makes a threat, accompanied by a show of immediate force or violence, to do bodily injury to an individual. (b) A threat under this section may be express or implied.

          They showed up with an arrest warrant. Unless and until there’s some evidence where they just rolled up with the intent to murder him, I’m going to presume that’s not the case.

          • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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            They are cops doing a no-knock raid at 6:00am, of course they are had intent to murder.

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    Bury that miserable thing and set a porta-potty on the grave.

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