Got this notification when I opened Chrome when coming back to my desk after lunch.
“We changed our privacy settings to allow us to snoop on what you’re looking at and shove you ads accordingly. Feel free to opt out, but we’ll probably opt you back in when you aren’t paying attention.”
I’m always a bit amused when these sites and apps say things like, “If you turn off ad personalization, the ads you see won’t be as useful to you.”
My dude, I don’t think I’ve ever willingly clicked on an ad in my entire life. “Personalizing” them won’t change that.
- N1cknamed ( @N1cknamed@feddit.nl ) 8•1 year ago
Ads aren’t supposed to make you click through, they’re supposed to lodge a brand in your brain.
If you’ve seen 5 ads for red delicious apples and 0 for pink ladys, the next time you go to buy an apple you’re more likely to pick a red delicious even though pink lady’s are superior in every single way. That’s how they get you.
Used to think otherwise, that I was immune to the phenomenon that you’re describing. But then the other day I realised my shoes were hurting my feet. I was seriously considering buying shoe inserts (if that’s their English name), even had the brand in mind, until I realised what was happening.
I’ve seen ads for this brand on tv like a decade ago. Before that, I honestly had no clue such things existed, I’d seen them in a store like, twice. Never seen anything related to them ever since. Literally forgot about them until I felt the slightest urge to buy them. I was really taken aback when I realised what had happened in my “advertising-immune” mind
It isn’t one or the other. They’re trying to both persuade you and develop brand awareness. But they’ll settle for brand awareness.
Fuckin love pink ladies
I see an ad and I zone out or ignore it.
I used to click on ads back in the day when you’d get paid for it (I was a poor school student, don’t judge. :p).
Ads work on the general population or else these companies would stop paying for them.
it’s not about your clicks, it’s to influence you, it can influence people in multiple degree, maybe next type when you go buy something think about it
Basically the only times I click on ads is when I’m searching for something and the search engine I’m using has paid ads for the thing I’m searching for at the top.
Beyond that I can’t think of any times I’ve ever clicked on an ad intentionally.
“new privacy feature” and then “sites you visit can determine what you like”
translated: “this new privacy feature reduces the amount privacy you have!!! what a great thing you like!!!”
Idk why the heck you just got downvoted into oblivion for pointing out the irony in google calling this a “privacy feature.” Good old reddit moment it seems.
lol it’s no worries. actually I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post https://lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.
Damn, you’re still copy pasting that? That link doesn’t even go anywhere lol
He thinks he’s getting bot downvoted, but there’s actually people invested enough to stalk him. Cute.
didn’t think about it like that! i feel loved :)
Yeah, he’s definitely “important”
I don’t particularly care about your or his internet spats or attempt to control the all important narrative on lemmy. You are the one giving him rent free space in your brain and on your keyboard though.
Lol wat
See WarmSoda!? This is why I shouldn’t have stopped. People ask this question, your advice was wrong! I’m going to continue what I was doing before you called me stupid.
edit: The link points to lemmy.world which is intermittently getting DDOS’ed.
Please ignore my negative initial vote score, as I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post https://lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.
It’s funny how small incremental changes over the years felt like nothing big was happening and then at some point we all woke up to a world where the largest advertising firm in the world basically is the internet for the vast majority of people. Everyone uses chrome and rarely types in a web address, they just type the name of the thing into Google and trust mommy to show them what’s appropriate. They’ve back doored the entire population into basically what AOL was trying to be 20 years ago.
“we are going to help protect your privacy” from WHO Google? Is it from you? Because it seems like we need protection from you most of all. Constantly being gaslit by mega-corporations is the new American dream. It’s okay because they love us, deep down, and we know that even though they don’t show it.
- Rikudou_Sage ( @rikudou@lemmings.world ) English15•1 year ago
small incremental changes over the years felt like nothing big was happening and then at some point we all woke up
I (and many others I presume) has been saying Chrome is shit since the beginning. It didn’t feel like nothing was happening, it felt like we were slowly getting to the old days of IE and Netscape.
There are always a few that see this stuff coming, but they usually get looked at like a crazy person shouting about the sky falling.
It also feels like they really push a lot of the terrible on mobile first, get people used to concepts with the “that’s just how mobile is, it’s a different world” and then when most are accustomed to it they move to regular pc enshitification.
I do not like how websites prioritise the mobile view over desktop view even when it is on a desktop. You have a widescreen and want to waste all that horizontal space? Just ridiculous!
Yeah yeah, I understand it is less maintenance from a developer point of view, but still it is infuriating as a user.
They gotta their digital peasantry, I mean users, from other feudal lords, I mean corporations, to maximize their power over them and ability to exploit them, I mean … No wait that’s right.
This is why I use Linux at home, along with TOR and a VPN. I’m not doing anything other than looking up woodworking and camping stuff, but fuck all ya’ll for being nosy.
Literally Ron Swanson
My dude. All the feels right here.
I’m already seeing all the ads I want to see.
Fucking. None.
From where comes the idea that personalised ads are good? I hate this timeline.
Google is a large company, they need to pay their employees and server. It’s pretty entitled of you to expect them to work for free. /s
I read this everywhere these days. Shilling has become culture.
No I understand why websites show ads. I don’t understand why whenever I disable personal ads, I get a message saying “Are you really sure? If you disable this you won’t see your favourite ads anymore and only see ads for things you probably don’t want to buy. That’d be awful wouldn’t it?” and expect me to change my mind because that’s definitely not why I wanted to disable it in the first place.
They act as if people like to see ads because then they can buy stuff they think they want/need. And I’m getting afraid that’s actually true for a lot of people too.
I dunno how other people operate but I never once bought something off an ad.
me neither I think? but it probably still subconsciously affects me
Let me take a look at what I buy. No, everything has been reviewed, thought upon (cos I ain’t rich) and then maybe bought.
Does it? Can you even remember a product that you bought after looking at its ad?
Games probably. If I’m browsing the store looking for new games, any games I’ve seen in ads will probably pique my interest more because I recognise them.
Same with food, movies, so many other things.
Frightening, isn’t it?
As Netflix and producers of toilet paper know well, people in the end are happy to pay for things they like or need. But Google and its like have discovered that instead of selling stuff to me, it’s much more profitable to sell me to others.
No thanks.
God I wish the days would catch on in america, you just don’t get the same level of clean with toilet paper, seriously I used to have problems with an itchy anus, doctor always said it was normal. Even when it was red from wiping too much just to try to get rid of the itch.
Switching to a bidet cured everything.
If I start to itch back there I just use the bidet, clears it right up
Sadly it hasn’t become culture, that was a thing even back in the days when the internet was just gamefaqs, new grounds, and whatever Message Board your mates went to.
They are good on paper
But not in execution
If you’re going to show me ads thag I give a shit about they may be less annoying.
more choices over ads you see
Who in their right mind want to see ads
People who are used to ads somehow just glaze over them and seem to not actually see them. It’s quite Impressive really
I’ve never, not once in my life, saw an ad which managed to make me buy something.
It doesn’t matter what it’s selling. The fact that it’s disrupting whatever I’m doing or making my experience worst makes me refuse to buy whatever it’s selling, and it doesn’t matter how personalized it’ll get. I will never be influenced to buy something just because I saw it on an ad.
This feature will literally do nothing for me. I’ll still block ads, or if they are unblockable for any reason, I’ll just ignore them until they’re done.
It’s mostly unsettling and a bit creepy. Like you’ll be doing something during the day and then later you’ll see it on Google. Like someone’s watching you.
At this point I assume everything about me is known to all the corporations. When stuff like that happens, I just go “yeah that tracks”.
I’m just like this too, but you have to remember that for every person like us, there’s a person like my wife, who’s buying garbage that she sees on instagram ads nearly every week.
I beg her to at least search for the item and buy it directly so that the website she’s on isn’t getting revenue for ads. It’s petty but makes me feel better.
Many friends of mine are like saying why would i care i’d rather see ads that are relevant than ones that arent. Like dude i dont want ads at all and i dont want my data to be used to influence my buying behavior.
I don’t care if I have to see unobtrusive ads (not overlays, not popups, not unskippable videos) ads help keep many web services free, sometimes I even find it helpful when ads are relevant to my recent searches or the page I am looking at. But having companies build up profiles about me and then share that between themselves is bullshit, that kind of behavior would be treated as stalking if done by an individual, why is it ok for a business?
Unfortunately, a majority of the population like the ad based free service model, so here we are.
“More useful ads” Well the best ads is no ads.
Ah the privacy sandbox that was overwhelming disagreed with, but that Google forced onto the web because they’re a monopoly.
It really is unfortunate that almost all their users are asleep at the wheel and don’t care.
The mundanes/normies whatever you wanna call em.
They won’t understand anything without a song and dance number
That describes all of us in at least a few areas beyond our competencies and interests.
me hugs Firefox
Which is literally kept alive by Google. They have a monopoly, stop deluding yourself intot hinking there are any good guys (except maybe the Librewolf, Mullvad, and Tor devs)
Librewolf is based on FF, you know right? Mozilla does receive Google funding (that’s why their default search engine is Google), but adopting FF and derivatives is also about Chromium not being the single dominant engine: that would only strengthen Google’s monopoly.
As long as we don’t use Chromium-based browsers (and Google services) we’re doing good against Google’s monopoly already.
While I agree, most people fail to see the bigger picture. They use Firefox to prevent Chromium from having a monopoly for browser features, but what they fail to see is that in most cases, Google already has full control. If Chromium browsers get a feature, Firefox will inevitably implement it in Gecko and the browser so that users don’t say things like “Firefox sucks”. Firefox does not suck, Google and their monopolistic practices suck. Now it does provide some practical benefit, for example when Google decides to introduce a more restricted version of a pre existing feature, Firefox can opt to keep on using tje less restricted version as well. The most prominent example of this is the whole Manifest v3 mess. But with something like Web Environment Integrity (or as many, myself included, call it, DRM for the Web), Firefox will inevitably adopt it after Google does, so as to not have users upset and leaving.
I agree with what’s gonna happen. At the same time, I guess Mozilla won’t make it hard for “Google’s web DRM” to be either toggled off via user config, or sandboxed from user data. They have interest in catering to people fed up with Google’s constant privacy invasions, so I’m currently waiting to see their next actions with moderate confidence and a healthy dose of skepticism as well.
Yeah, I’d say that’s the best stance for anyone to take, as a user
Question: if personalized ads are so great, why can’t I just go into my google account’s settings and put there all the info about me? My income, my interests, ages of my children, my favorite food… Since personalized ads are so good every google users will just fill it in to get the best ads possible, right? Why not give people this option instead of implementing all this trackers?
I love how targeting yourself with ads relevant to your interests is presented as something advantageous for us. Sorry, I don’t desire to be constantly prodded to take interest in new gadgets and cat foods.
Because everyone in the game is making money off those trackers. Just because you give them your address and general interests doesn’t mean they know you’re shopping for a new fence for your house or different daycares for your kids at a specific given time.
I would fill it up with false information.
Then you will not get all those super useful, personalized ads! How will you know what do you need?
The only time I see ads is when I look into someone else’s screen
