If you simp for dictators you cannot be leftist. All authoritarian is right wing. Tankies are virtually no different than MAGA Republicans. Both have the same goals regardless of the minor differences. And I have never seen a tankie talk shit about conservatives.
- EremesZorn ( @EremesZorn@beehaw.org ) 39•1 year ago
Never truer words. And some of you wanted to let them in by staying federated with Hexbear. It’s no good.
Yeah it was pretty disappointing
I was one of them. I recognize it was a mistake. 🙇♀️
Thank you for changing your views, I know how hard that can be.
I wasn’t a tankie in my past, I was homophobe among other things.
My views have changed since then and it hurts to think back on those who were hurt by my views. But I try to do better. And that’s really all we can do.
We’re human, we make mistakes. Our mistakes aren’t what define us. It’s our response to mistakes (be it our own or others) that define us.
Plus once I got to the root of where that homophobia came from (self hatred, being a victim of abuse, etc) I was able to move past it.
I’ll never forget what it felt like to look at myself in the mirror and say aloud, “I’m bisexual.”
And over the years confronting those I knew who still held onto those shitty views, and they either changed or I moved on.
Oh, I’ve never been a tankie. I was saying that I was one of the people that wanted to stay federated with Hexbear and try to make it work. I want to believe in leftist and queer unity, so I tried to turn a blind eye to their takes on Putin, thinking it was only a few bad apples.
But thinking back on it, the days we’ve been federated I was a lot angrier and jumpier than usual, and it’s because of the bad energy they bring. Defederating was for the best.
Maybe it’s just a jerboa bug but many of the replies to this comment look like they’re replies to someone else and it doesn’t look like this comment was edited… Am I going crazy or is it a bug or what?
I’ve noticed it in Jerboa as well, I’ll have to check this thread out in my browser to be sure to see what’s going on
I think it happens when the comment that the other comments were replying to gets removed
Would you call Malcom X a “tankie”? Were the Black Panthers reactionaries? Was Albert Einstein a fascist? Were the tens of millions of communists who died in the 20th century fighting for human liberation equivalent to Nazi’s?
This is an honest question. I would be fascinated to understand the thought process of anyone who answers yes, which presumably should be anyone who uses the term ‘tankie’.No, no, no and no.
Socialist != tankie.
And what do the USSR soldiers that fought 83 years ago have to do with the people spewing Kremlin propaganda today? Or Einstein for that matter?
You’re responsible for your own actions, if you simp for a despot, you’re a tankie. Hiding behind ideology doesn’t make it okay.
The people in the US that were anti intervention in WW2 until Soviet Union got invaded, but then changed their stance were tankies (doubly so to the Union leaders that were fine with genocide in Poland but stopped striking the moment Stalin’s criminal treaty backfired). The people that supported Soviet oppression in the Warsaw pact were tankies (that’s what the terms comes from). The people supporting an Fascist land grab and genocide attempt, done under the same pretexts as Hitler had for Poland, right now, are tankies and truly worthy of their 1939 ideological ancestors.
Thank you. I tried interacting with one today and they just kept telling me I’m not introspective enough. Like just outright shaming me as if I don’t understand my own thoughts and choices. Conatantly attacking my character rather than my arguments.
OP points out it’s not just their beliefs that are problematic but this like, systematic behavior of disrupting our beliefs.