“Alito’s next opinion piece in the WSJ is about to be ‘I am a little king, actually. The Constitution doesn’t explicitly say I’m not,’” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) quipped.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 24•10 months agoUnless they start impeaching Justices, he’s completely right. Impeach or shut the fuck up “Progressives”.
kitonthenet ( @kitonthenet@kbin.social ) 11•10 months agoWith what votes?
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 11•10 months agoIf the vote fails (as it likely would) then we can see which politicians are our enemies and need to be replaced. The failed vote could be used as a rallying cry to motivate voters and spark protests and generate momentum for reform. A vote would generate a news cycle.
Without a vote, nothing happens.
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English8•10 months agoWhich worked so well through TWO failed Trump impeachments…
Impeachment without removal is pointless. So step 1 HAS to be getting the majority back in the house AND getting a 2/3rds majority in the Senate.
Once you do that, I’d argue for a new Amendment. Ethics rules + age limits.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoIf you haven’t noticed, Trump isn’t President anymore.
The impeachments galvanized voters. Duh?
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English4•10 months agoImpeachment had no impact on voters, if anything, quite the opposite, which is why we have a Republican run House of Representatives right now and the balance of power in the Senate hasn’t changed.
We need a 2/3rds majority in the House and Senate to start making massive changes.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoHow can you say impeachment had no impact when Trump literally lost? The fact that the House was lost 2 years after that was because voters saw that Democrats are worthless do-nothing losers that refuse to do anything when they win.
We need a 2/3rds majority in the House and Senate to start making massive changes.
If that’s true then I should just kill myself now because it will never happen for the rest of my miserable life
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English2•10 months agoBecause after impeaching him the House immediately flipped? Ya think? Impeachment was well recieved in the bubble, not so much outside the bubble.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 2•10 months agoWithout a vote, nothing happens.
Feels like that’s the point.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoExactly! AOC and other so-called Progressives are allowed to speak out against the dominant political line and act like they’re anti-establishment, but they don’t have to actually humiliate any other members of the Party by putting them to a vote.
kitonthenet ( @kitonthenet@kbin.social ) 2•10 months agoOk, how can they call a vote?
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoThat’s harder, obviously. They need the Speaker to call for impeachment proceedings, which isn’t happening without drastic measures.
He also is only one man. He has an address. He has friends and family. He has business interests and donors and a whole host of private interests. He has investments and properties and associates.
Those are all legitimate targets. There are millions of people that would move on AOCs command. She could call on all her supporters to make McCarthy’s life a living hell. He’s just one man. He can be defeated by the masses.
kitonthenet ( @kitonthenet@kbin.social ) 2•10 months agoWhile I appreciate your forthrightness about the need to kill the speaker of the house, I don’t think that is going to go over well with the people I’d need it to go over well with
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoWoah hold up, I mean his life needs to become a living hell; not literally send him to hell.
CaptObvious ( @CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) 1•10 months agoNobody said that, and you know it. Stick to the topic. Your lack of logic and bad faith are showing.
keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 1•10 months agoThe ones we would think need to be replaced are largely in republican controlled areas. So that would likely gain them support from their base.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoThere are millions of people who don’t vote because they believe it doesn’t matter. Reaching them would change everything.
keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 3•10 months agoWhile I agree on the point that dems should be trying to reach disaffected voters in red states and that these Republicans who would vote against ethics for tc justices should be replaced. I don’t see this doing that if they couldn’t already with how corrupt the republican party openly is now.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoThey don’t care because they see that Democrats aren’t doing anything that matters anyway. Why bother voting for the do-nothing party?
keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 1•10 months agoDems in the last 3 years have done more than trump and Republicans in 4. If they can’t bother to see reality then that’s on them.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 3•10 months agoAgreed.
You can say whatever you want for publicity when you know you won’t lift a finger to make any of it happen.
keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 2•10 months agoWhat more could aoc do here? She can’t force a vote on it. And even if she could it’d be shot down with the current congress.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 1•10 months agoThis is my favorite thing about the modern Democratic Party: the intense desire to get credit for excuses.
keeb420 ( @keeb420@kbin.social ) 2•10 months agoIt’s not an excuse when it’s describing the reality of the situation. Dems can’t call a vote here and if they could somehow force a vote it would get voted down just by numbers. Republicans don’t care they are openly corrupt.
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English2•10 months agoImpeachment starts in the House, which is currently run by Republicans. So that’s a non-starter unless you want to impeach Kagan, Sotomayor or Brown-Jackson.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoImpeachment is solely at the discretion of McCarthy. The rest of the House doesn’t matter.
And he’s just one man.
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English3•10 months agoYou need a majority vote in the house and the Republican majority will NEVER vote to impeach a Republican Supreme Court justice when there’s a Democratic President. Will never happen.
This is the same political body who needed 15 votes to decide who their own leader was.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoI’m pretty sure impeachment proceedings can just be started by McCarthy whenever he wants.
Removal requires a majority so that won’t happen, but impeachment matters. Do you think Trump lost for no reason?
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English2•10 months agoHouse leadership doesn’t do anything without knowing the votes are there first and they are absolutely not there.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoMcCarthy can be made to do anything with enough mass mobilization against him.
Jordan Lund ( @jordanlund@lemmy.one ) English1•10 months agoThe problem is any mass mobilization against him will come from those further Right, not Left.
- adroit balloon ( @adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml ) English15•10 months ago
Alito: “Regulate us, I dare you!”
Congressional Dems: “Hold our beers…"
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) English11•10 months agoMore like this:
Congressional Dems: “If we say really mean things about Alito, it’s cool that nothing changed, right?”
hystericallymad ( @hystericallymad@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months agoKavanaugh: “I like beer!”
elementalguy2 ( @elementalguy2@lemmy.sdf.org ) English2•10 months agoAnd Squee.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English2•10 months ago
Senate Republicans: loud evil laugh, mustache pinching, etc
- adroit balloon ( @adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml ) English3•10 months ago
ahem, I believe it’s mustache-twirling…
discusseded ( @discusseded@programming.dev ) 2•10 months agoLol…
Mwua-hahahaha.
Pinch pinch pinch, pinch pinch.
skellener ( @skellener@kbin.social ) 13•10 months agoC O R R U P T
RickRussell_CA ( @RickRussell_CA@lemmy.ml ) 11•10 months agoWell, here’s the problem. Alito is correct, that Congress can’t impose “ethics rules” on the court.
The sole remedy given to the people is impeachment, and Bribery is explicitly listed as a valid basis for impeachment under Article 1.
We would never get an impeachment through the Senate, of course.
Rivalarrival ( @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ) 2•10 months agoThere is a second remedy: constitutional amendment. Not sure exactly who should be watching the watchers if it’s not Congress. But we can assign someone to do so.
Maybe a supermajority of district court judges should rule on issues involving SCOTUS justices.
pinkdrunkenelephants ( @pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ) English10•10 months agoThis is why we need to overthrow this broken system and put a new one into place.
Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoCall me when literally anything happens
Boddhisatva ( @Boddhisatva@kbin.social ) 2•10 months ago“No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period,” Alito told the Journal.
This dumb shit really should read the Constitution.
Art III.S2.C2.6 Exceptions Clause and Congressional Control over Appellate Jurisdiction
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
Congress absolutely has, per the Constitution, clear authority to regulate the SCOTUS. How’s this for an exception. The Supreme Court shall have no Jurisdiction in any case where any member of the court has a conflict of interest or even the appearance of a conflict of interest and refuses to recuse themselves?