- Shdwdrgn ( @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz ) English52•1 year ago
Wow the sheer lack of self-recognition in this guy… Dude, you ARE the Nazi that you pretend to be fighting against. It doesn’t matter if you’re American or Russian, you ‘proud boys’ are all the same.
- The_Mixer_Dude ( @The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org ) English24•1 year ago
What the fuck…
- YaaAsantewaa ( @YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 8•1 year ago
Spamming the same fake news?
We need a rule against posting nazi websites and yes, this is a nazi website and no, the Russians aren’t the bad guys
- Ignacio ( @Ignacio@kbin.social ) 38•1 year ago
Yes, you’re right. There is no bad thing in killing and raping women, children and elder people, and there is no bad thing in bombing kindergartens, hospitals, and even theaters with the word “ДІТЕИ” written at the front.
- YaaAsantewaa ( @YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•1 year ago
Russians are not the ones waving SS symbols around, that’s the Ukrainian Nazis, it’s also the Ukrainians who are the ones attacking ethnic minorities and supporting dictators in the Middle-East
- mim ( @mim@lemmy.sdf.org ) 37•1 year ago
Ah yes, right wing nationalism is a problem exclusively in Ukraine. Russia invading a neighbour has nothing to do with Russification.
www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/return-russian-ethnonationalism
- bermuda ( @bermuda@beehaw.org ) 29•1 year ago
it’s also the Ukrainians who are the ones attacking ethnic minorities and supporting dictators in the Middle-East
“Imma just say shit without backing it up”
- vacuumflower ( @vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year ago
Technically he is right with the latter, and there are minorities which get official status and lots of love from Ukraine’s government, like Crimean Tatars (less native to Crimea than Greeks and Armenians, despite the name), and there are those who get less of that (Greeks, Armenians, also Poles and Hungarians). I mean, Russian and Ukrainians policies on minorities are kinda similar.
- reason ( @reason@lemm.ee ) 21•1 year ago
Russia is democratic nation?
- Johanno ( @Johanno@feddit.de ) 25•1 year ago
Of course! They vote regularly! Sometimes even double the population of a city is voting!
Do you have proof they are Nazis?
- Dr Cog ( @Dr_Cog@mander.xyz ) 23•1 year ago
Nazis famously elect Jewish leaders, so there’s one
- vacuumflower ( @vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year ago
Not that funny really. A Nazi is a person following a certain ideology, which takes only one level of generalization to imagine a Jewish Nazi being Nazi to Germans, Poles and Frenchmen. One level is not that much.
And references to German Conservative symbols are kinda popular among Ukrainian nationalists. Poverty and shitty education through the years of independence do that. Not much different from Russia itself or many other former Soviet republics (somehow European, of course, it’s hard to imagine a Nazi Uzbek or Tajik, but Tajik nationalists love Achaemenid empire and Samanid kingdom very much) or even former Warsaw Pact countries.
- palordrolap ( @palordrolap@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
A couple of things to ponder:
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Assume true. What would Putin say or do to this soldier if they were to meet? Publicly? Privately?
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Assume a Ukrainian soldier has done the same. What would Zelenskyy say or do to his soldier? Publicly? Privately?
Think about those for a while. What will people of all priorities (pro-Russia, pro-Ukraine, anti-conflict, etc.) think about the decisions that are made and things that are said?
I don’t have the answers to these questions, but know what my guesses would be and I can see people of either side of this conflict giving any one of the possible answers and justifying it either way.
e.g. Imagine Putin has his soldier court-martialled and shot; Some pro-Russians will proclaim this a strong move. Others will say that he should not have done that because those Ukrainians deserved to be murdered and the soldier did the right thing. Likewise if Putin was to throw this soldier in prison, some might say it wasn’t enough and others might say that he shouldn’t even be in there. (NB: I don’t believe anyone deserves to be murdered. Ukrainian or Russian. This is all hypothetical.)
Alternatively, we might have Putin outwardly congratulate this soldier. This would be an internationally unpopular move, more-so than having the soldier shot, because the West kind of expects Putin to “deal with” people who make him look bad, but some pro-Russians would proclaim it a strong move. Others will think that it was a bad idea but say nothing.
Zelenskyy might have his own soldier court-martialled and shot. If he is truly interested in aligning with the West as Russia fears, he probably wouldn’t do this. He’d instead have the soldier tried in court, and if found guilty, possibly even turned over to Russia if it could be guaranteed the soldier was going to be imprisoned for his crimes and not tortured or shot.
Would Russia consider turning over their own POW murderers to Ukraine? Probably not. They don’t recognise Ukraine.
It would be nice if they did though. If they realised where their soldiers and tanks were they might be able to get them out of there and this conflict would be over. Enough lives have been lost to make up for any transgressions either way at this point.
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- Asiaticus ( @i18nde@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
Yes, American soldiers would never do such things. They are distributing bananas and chocolate during war times to POW, have a lot of occasions to do so during the last decades.
What do American soldiers have to do with this? That is not even a good whataboutism.
- 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏 ( @lemann@lemmy.one ) 2•1 year ago
What is a “POW”?
- Asiaticus ( @i18nde@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year ago
Prisoner of war.
- 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏 ( @lemann@lemmy.one ) 2•1 year ago
Thankyouu
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 1•1 year ago
Euromaidan press, truly the pinnacle of modern journalism