• There is a big culture of shaming and questioning people who buy small vehicles in the US and Canada. From salesmen who use it to push bigger, more profitable vehicles to people, to marketers who prey on fear and toxic masculinity to sell , and to everyday people who perpetuate the myths and fear, teasing and mocking their fellows who might have chosen a smaller vehicle. So here we are, barely a small vehicle to be bought and all maxed out on credit to drive the biggest rig we can. Well interest rates are headed up, gas is only going to get more expensive and suddenly that big rig with the the big operating cost shouldn’t seem like such a good idea.

  •  agegamon   ( @agegamon@beehaw.org ) 
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    “Might” thats real cute.

    Seriously though, there’s some real insidious shit that goes on here in the US as far as mandates minimum fuel economy in large cars, which is definitely not helping this whole cost problem.

    Basically, the US both nerfs requirements extremely quickly for more wasteful vehicles (such as SUVs and trucks) and nerfs the requirements within each individual category (like car, truck, mid-size SUV, etc) as the physical size of the vehicle gets closer to the max allowed size within that category.

    This is a total win-win for automakers, as they can skate by with lower efficiency vehicles (reducing cost a lot) while making them physically bigger (not that much more expensive) and pocketing the difference. Oh and bigger is better so on top of that you just pay a fat-car tax straight to the automaker.

    It’s really properly fucked.

    YouTube for more: https://youtu.be/mQDegCqiVnU

    • Why do I only buy used cars?

      I’ve been priced out of new cars.

      Edit: I of course also drive cars basically until I can’t fix them anymore (a high bar) though so it’s not like I buy cars often lol

      •  nbailey   ( @nbailey@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Used cars are also getting to be insane. Try finding a ~5 year old Camry or Corolla in good shape for for less than 25K (CAD)these days, even the supply of $500 rusted out Crown Vic’s is drying up. I’ve even seen 10+ year old cars going for between 15-20K in my area.

        Anecdata: this is also screwing with insurance. My sister got hit in a minor accident, we were sure the car was going to be written off since it’s 7 years old and more than three body panels would be replaced. But, the car had increased in value by $3,000 since she bought it five years ago, so they got to repair and keep it.

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    When they say car prices are unsustainable do y’all think they mean the manufacturer website one? (Website is pretty reasonable )

    Or…

    The one that when I step into a dealership they add $15000 for the “privilege” of me buying the car from them?

    From the dealership mindset I must be batshit crazy for not buying a car from them.

  • My understanding is that a big part of the reason car prices are up is that everybody wants luxury brands + high-end trims now. So a lot of these delinquencies could be for people who would have had no problem affording a $300/month car lease if they’d opted for a cheaper car.

  • I agree but you could easily fool me with the amount of brand new trucks and suvs I see driving around. Prices will not go down if everyone keeps paying them. And then there are people that can’t afford to buy groceries but they have their brand new jeep wagoneer that cost like $80k… that just further drives up prices because you have people that can’t afford it still paying the premium, still driving the demand, so the dealers can get away with charging whatever they want.

  • I think the tacet agreement between csr manufactuerers to let this price hike happen, and followed by Biden’s EV rules are just going to accelerate this problem. The working class is going to be forced out of driving very soon.