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Since its inception, Microsoft Excel has changed how people organize, analyze, and visualize their data, providing a basis for decision-making for the flying billionaires heads up in the clouds who don’t give a fuck for life offtheline
Are they not gonna give a bullshit reason for this? Just straight up give us your data and it’s secure on our Azure instances?
- NightAuthor ( @NightAuthor@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
The video I watched on the subject said the cloud part was to simplify and standardize the code environment. I’m sure they could have done something like a PyEnv and/or embedded copy of Python, but that’d be extra computer and storage overhead.
It’d be nice to have the option though.
I hear LibreOffice has had this functionality for a while though.
- nottheengineer ( @nottheengineer@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
Python is slow enough as is, who the fuck thought adding a web request to that was a good idea‽
- bedrooms ( @bedrooms@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
I can understand the cloud part. they wanted it work on the web and phones. They do know many businesses don’t want cloud, so I see a good chance they’ll ship it with embedded Python eventually.
Phones can also run Python and web is already a pretty separate version, I don’t see why they can’t only make the web version cloud.
- HidingCat ( @HidingCat@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Money, what else? Office 365 is a priority and this is an attempt to hasten adoption.
- bedrooms ( @bedrooms@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
At least iPhone apps usually redirect Python tasks to their servers. That’s one reason there are projects like Tensorflow Light.
For instance? All the python apps I’ve downloaded so far seem to function offline.
- bedrooms ( @bedrooms@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
You can look up Tensorflow Light.
That’s just machine learning which is very resource consuming. It has no relation to your purported case of phones redirecting all python tasks to servers.
- bedrooms ( @bedrooms@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Okay, I dug more to find out I’m wrong.
But isn’t ML technology a thing Excel offers with its new Python interface?
Not really. I don’t expect them to have a cloud instance running that long.
- conciselyverbose ( @conciselyverbose@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
You can even get third party libraries, though it’s limited compared to less restrictive environments.
- flamingo_pinyata ( @flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ) 2•1 year ago
Because it was so much easier to send data to the cloud than embed a Python interpreter. 🤦
I wouldn’t be surprised if there already is one in the monstrosity that is Excel
- lemonflavoured ( @lemonflavoured@kbin.social ) 7•1 year ago
My guess is that they are seeing this as less likely to become a security hole.
- earthling ( @earthling@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
Yep. Everyone in the thread asking this question seems clueless to me. Macros are already a threat. I can’t imagine what a shitshow full on python would be.
The Python API they gave doesn’t have disk access. Maybe somebody’ll discover an exploit but that’s for everything.
Someone on lemmy.world pointed out the FOSS xlwings also exists.