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111 ( 111@zerobytes.monster )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

In a historic about-face, Apple publicly supports right-to-repair bill

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In a historic about-face, Apple publicly supports right-to-repair bill

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111 ( 111@zerobytes.monster )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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The iPhone maker now says repair access "is good for consumers’ budgets and good for the environment."
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  • azalty ( azalty@jlai.lu ) 
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    I’m sure they’ll find a way to sell their components at full price just like what they do right now. They’ll surely keep their DRMs in place and prevent repairs with other components.

    If they support it, it is because they modified it enough so that they benefit from it.

  • CaptObvious ( CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) Banned
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    Any idea what prompted this about face?

    • Kevin Herrera ( kherge@beehaw.org ) 
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      Pessimistic: Apple lawyers have arguments prepared that DRM’ing individual components does not violate this law.

      Less Pessimistic: Apple got a sufficient head start in supporting third-party repairs that it would be beneficial for them to get this law passed so that other manufacturers scramble to catch up.

      • Bitrot ( Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        • umami_wasabi ( umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Which is the type of repair bill I don’t want. I would like to just source a donor phone and transplant parts to make it work again, aka reducing wastes. (and protecting my bank acc)

          However, with a big player like Apple support this defective bill, it got a high chance to pass and set the standard.

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            • umami_wasabi ( umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ) 
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              I agree. Security components, fine. Just let me skip over that.

              However, what on earth they need to serialize the monitor and battery?!?! Calibration? How come I don’t need calibration for my PC monitor nor my camera batteries? Does it work to its fullest? No. Does it work. Yes. That all I want.

            • PuppyOSAndCoffee ( PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml ) 
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              Sir/Madam, your iphone has been selected for a completely random verification by the customs agent, please provide and we will return it in 1 - 2 hrs. Thaaaannk you for your cooperation.

        • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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          Not DRM

          Apple doesn’t care […]. If you buy certain components you have to contact them for assistance activating them.

          You are contradicting yourself

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            • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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              Oh, yeah, you are right. Sorry, I’m just too much used to calling DRM as Digital Restrictions Management.

              You have to contact them to assist you in pairing the devices to avoid warnings, just like a repair center does, but you are not actually activating them with Apple.

              Do you mean that the devices actually boot with the replacement parts, but they also show a warning about them? If so, did this change recently (as in, last few years), or was it always that way since digitally signed parts became a thing?

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      • CaptObvious ( CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) Banned
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        Good points. It may also be that someone else is already out in front of this, and Apple is trying to catch up.

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    • Zanz ( Zanz@lemmy.ml ) 
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      The last time it failed it was supposed to come back with allowing modules instead of parts. Apple would be fine with selling “modules” as they consider their devices to be top case, bottom case, motherboard, battery, and screen (has stuff attached.) If they can have a needs calibration some where to shame 3rd party repairs and not allow board level repair it is just what they wanted.

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        Fair point.

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      • CaptObvious ( CaptObvious@literature.cafe ) Banned
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        I suspect you’re right.

  • TropicalMustafa ( TropicalMustafa@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Just to make it useless like in NYC?

  • PuppyOSAndCoffee ( PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml ) 
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    What about battery, ram and storage in laptops?

    Right to repair doesn’t mean you can.

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    The same way I am extremely skeptical on macrohard supporting right to repair bills, I am very skeptical of appl€ doing the exact same thing. Ain’t no way they ain’t gonna spin it in a way that forces you to either be stuck with macO$ or Bimbows so they can shut out both gøøgl€ and Linux/BSD/whatever else.

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