After two weeks I visited reddit again. Holy shit the misogyny and lack of critical thinking in the comments is something else.
Eternal summer over there

  • Absolutely. This place may be less active, but discussions have definitely been much more civil and constructive. So far, I haven’t had any toxic reactions to any of my comments, whereas on reddit no matter what you write or however careful you write it, there would always be someone taking offense at it or being awful in the comments.

    I don’t mind discussion or disagreement, but on reddit this often means “bringing the other guy down” instead of making your own point.

    As this started happening more and more throughout the years, I’ve often wondered if it was me, if I was so out of touch, but it turned out it was really the children (redditors) who were wrong.

    • Nepenthe ( Nepenthe@kbin.social ) 
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      Bad day? Because there’s no way to word myself more neutrally, that came out of left field and it kinda makes you come off like one of those “can’t be racist against white people” people…

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          I’m assuming that they understood that, because they said (I assume pejoratively) that they sounded like a “can’t be racist against white people” leftist. If they had failed to notice the sarcasm, they would be taking the sarcasm at face value and seeing a pro-male, “all lives matter” type take

      • The “/s” is used to indicate that the previous text was sarcasm. It’s a fake HTML formatting tag, meaning the sarcastic part of the text is over.

        “/s” was popular on reddit (though not with everyone), probably because so many users didn’t speak English as their native language, and sarcasm could be hard for them to detect. Even for native speakers, without tone of voice or body language to rely on, sarcasm could go unrecognized.

        Also, some users were willfully ignorant and looking to start a fight, some were oblivious, and others were just morons.

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          I noticed, but I was taught to take note of the things that people joke about and the /s below a statement doesn’t make it without meaning. The mocking of what every reddit MRA is automatically going to say came loud and clear, but in their hyperbolic implication that men have no issues (or none worth mentioning), they’ve shot over the mark into the technical definition of misandry. This doesn’t get to be Schroedinger’s Patriarchy, that isn’t how feminism works. Downplaying it is why none of them go to therapy, though.

          Idk if that’s how they actually see things or not. It was obviously written out of frustration, which is why I’m chalking it down to One Of Those Days. I scrolled past it twice before deciding to say something, because it really did feel out of left field and that kind of generalized malice just makes things worse.

          Some guy who was already having a shit time is going to read that and it has to make them tired at best. At worst, less likely to take actual issues seriously when they’re just implicitly insulted out of the gate before anyone even said anything. Spite is wrong, but that doesn’t make people less spiteful and they remember how you make them feel.

          I really wanna get as far away from Reddit Culture as possible, to be honest, which I know is a losing battle when we all came from Reddit but I gotta have some hopes up or the universe will be out of a hobby

          Edit: in the spirit of not being reddit, I am appreciating how many took the time to explain /s instead of jumping aaaaall the way down my throat like I expected

    • Heaven forbid TwoXChromosomes not be a default subreddit. I remember when not every OP was badgered so badly in the comments that she had to go back and ETA “not all men” to the post text. Or how women with scathing and accurate insights about the patriarchy didn’t have to always have reddit cares reports filed on their accounts!

        • 2X would get brigaded and trolled by douchebags from r/The Donald before that sub was quarantined and then closed (which was about the time 2X became a default sub), but before it became a default sub, it was a large but mostly niche interest. It was on the radar for incels and ne’erdowells, but those were relatively small fires for the mod team to put out case-by-case through temp and permanent bans. But once 2X became default - and reddit cares was created - this is when I saw even non-antagonizing men feel welcome to join the discussions and throw their weight around to always say “not all men” in response to whatever the OP was. It was largely counterproductive. The mod team at the time protested the incluaion of 2X on the default subs list when that feature was announced.

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    I was just saying to my spouse this morning how it seems that the smart people have left reddit as there is a discernible drop in the comment quality in some of the communities I frequent. Unfortunately they haven’t even been registered here just yet. I am quitting reddit in a week anyway hopefully by then more of those communities will migrate here. I created two (Signal, Amex), hope others will follow suit.

  • I’ve been saying this to friends, but I’d be careful with even cursory viewing of Reddit for the foreseeable future. It took a long enough time as it was for Reddit to become not overwhelmingly reactionary. The Reddit migration moving into primarily leftist spaces is going to leave behind a website that is quite literally conservative, and bitter. (Note that I am not suggesting people stay behind to re-balance it, merely to be aware that the site is not going to be just the same site with less people on it.)