johnthedoe ( @johnthedoe@lemmy.ml ) 64•10 months agoMS screwing us with software. Apple screwing us with hardware upgrades. Linux out there taking all survivors
gk99 ( @gk99@beehaw.org ) 17•10 months agoLinux suffers from being a patchwork of hobbyists updates, corporate additions, and patchy distro support. When it comes down to it, if you have an issue, you either have to solve it on your own or hope and pray the elitists on StackOverflow are in a good mood.
Honestly, every OS kinda sucks.
Nefyedardu ( @Nefyedardu@kbin.social ) 13•10 months ago“Patchwork” sounds like a good way to describe Windows as well. Or at least it was when I was a Windows 10 sysadmin and there were two different settings menus to do everything.
Thrift3499 ( @Thrift3499@lemm.ee ) 5•10 months agoControl panel and Settings, right? It got on my nerves as well.
GlenTheFrog ( @GlenTheFrog@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoDon’t worry, MS is planning to fix that soon I’ve heard. They’re just going to get rid of control panel and continue to dumb down Settings
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 5•10 months ago
Apple and Microsoft support aren’t exactly awesome, either, unless you’re a big business with deep pockets. At least with Linux, the system is open, so if there is a way to solve my problem, someone has almost certainly found it already and added it to Arch Wiki or Stack Overflow or something.
regalia ( @regalia@literature.cafe ) 3•10 months agoYet almost every os in the world relies on some sort of “hobbyist” updates. Including windows.
The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English14•10 months agoWait what’s apple been up to?
zero_gravitas ( @zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ) English34•10 months agoBroadly: Constructing their hardware so it’s impossible to repair or upgrade by anyone but them (or at all), then lobbying against any attempts to legislate the ‘right to repair’.
Check out the work of Louis Rossmann for details.
The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English8•10 months agoOh I thought this was something new they were doing. Same old shit they’ve always been up to. Got it
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 20•10 months agoMy favourite is making the nvme drive accessible, but soldering the actual memory controller to the mainboard, so this ability to swap the drive is utterly useless to us.
zero_gravitas ( @zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ) English8•10 months agoWell the latest development is that Apple is now going to support the current right to repair bill in California, but people are rightfully suspicious that they’re going to get some loopholes written in or otherwise neuter the bill.
An article: https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/24/apple_california_right_repair/
Dandroid ( @dandroid@dandroid.app ) 5•10 months agoThey actually support right to repair laws. The joke is that they will make their hardware so difficult to repair that they are the only ones who can do it.
zero_gravitas ( @zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ) English4•10 months agoOnly very recently, and people are rightly suspicious of their motives: https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/24/apple_california_right_repair/
Parculis Marcilus ( @pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de ) 39•10 months agoNow having Linux install in my machine, I don’t have to deal with wins bs ever again. It’s great that I made the right decision 5y ago
eleitl ( @eleitl@lemmy.ml ) 11•10 months agoQuarter century for me.
AzuleBlade ( @AzuleBlade@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoYou rockin’ Hannah Montana Linux?
eleitl ( @eleitl@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoMy first one was a random floppy distribution off an ftp server. I then tried SuSE off a CD-ROM and then went with Red Hat for a while. Then Debian, now Ubuntu. Tried FreeBSD but didn’t stick. Probably Debian again next. I always prefer Debian on the server though.
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 36•10 months agoHigh time for another antitrust, huh
That’s the problem
- they are making harder to change the default browser on windows, and broke workaround by chrome and firefox too.
- they don’t let you uninstall edge in easy way or without a third party software.
- if you download another browser from edge they try to persuade you in to giving edge a try.
- they are planning to set edge as the default browser on teams.
- they don’t give you an easy way to open with another browser the internet result from the windows search bar, they broke EdgeDeflector many times indeed.
And nobody is doing something about it!
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 14•10 months agoThe US government really doesn’t give a shit, does it. Maybe the EU?
You know that’s a fuck up situation when you need to hope that a government union will give a fuck about a tech giant throwing shit at their paying customers
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 8•10 months agoWell, there’s at least some hope, looking at the whole USB-C situation, the DSA and the DMA.
So much happens everyday that is more than just technically illegal, law enforcement doesn’t even know where to start.
One big thing for the GDPR right now is how many EU-US data transfers are violating the law, because they happen without user consent. If we’re being as strict as we should be, EU websites aren’t allowed to use Google Analytics, for example
KyuubiNoKitsune ( @KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 8•10 months agoIt’s sad, because Edge is actually a pretty good browser, but all this shit just makes everyone hate it.
Also, every Google page I visit gives me an annoying “Download Chrome now!” popup, so MS i guess is just using the same strategy Google used.
SeducingCamel ( @SeducingCamel@lemm.ee ) 4•10 months agoHaven’t installed fresh windows in a few years but I distinctly remember the past few times I installed Windows 10 I had the weirdest issues trying to download Firefox or chrome, like the webpage or download button was broke. I had to get my browser through ninite
derivator ( @derivator@feddit.de ) 34•10 months agoThat’s because they’re a malware company:
this has been going on in several different forms for years now so I’m just counting the days until the next annoying pop-up appears.
The solution is to not use their products. Use Linux.
theskyisfalling ( @theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 9•10 months agoI would use Linux if my primary reasons for using a computer worked properly. Games are a lot better these days than it was and always improving so there is light at the end of the tunnel in that respect but Traktor DJ software not so much.
As far as I know the only alternative on Linux is mixxx and that was just no where near as good the last time I used it. Maybe it is time to try it again…
Moobythegoldensock ( @Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ) 4•10 months agoYou can always contact Traktor and ask them to release a linux version.
theskyisfalling ( @theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•10 months agoI have done this with both traktor and serato and got similar responses from both along the lines of “we will suggest it to our tech dept, thanks”
aleph ( @aleph@lemm.ee ) English4•10 months agoIf you’re hanging onto Windows for just one app, you could try running it in a virtual machine. I do that for a few work-related apps that have no Linux/web versions and it works great.
You could also dual boot, if VM performance doesn’t quite cut it.
theskyisfalling ( @theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 1•10 months agoI have tried dual booting in the past but it becomes a pita for me as usually the majority of my time spent on a computer is using those things that only worked within windows so why change back just to say browse the web for example.
In the past it was games that were a pain to run but I haven’t tried it in the last 3 years or so and know that it has gotten a lot better with the advent of steam giving a shit about Linux more so due in no small part I’m sure of the steam deck.
The problem with virtual machines or WINE or whatever is the current standard for emulating a windows environment is that one application depends heavily on audio latency. It needs to run well and provide as close to zero latency as possible. Like I’ve said in a few other replies, maybe it is time I tried it out again as it has been a few years since I gave switching over a go, I need to have the time to put into getting it up and running and fixing any problems that arise however :D
aleph ( @aleph@lemm.ee ) English4•10 months agoGaming these days is generally excellent thanks to Proton. Certain titles do still have issues, but it’s on a case by case basis.
Audio latency is a good point - I don’t know how that fares under a VM these days. Pipewire has brought many improvements over Pulse, so it’s possible that the situation has also gotten better.
derivator ( @derivator@feddit.de ) 2•10 months agoI used WineASIO with Guitar Rig for a long time and it worked well and with acceptably low latency. It can be a hassle to set up though and I don’t know how it plays along with pipewire these days.
derivator ( @derivator@feddit.de ) 3•10 months agoI’ve never used Traktor but I like Mixxx. What problems did you have with it?
theskyisfalling ( @theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•10 months agoWhen I tried it last I had problems fully mapping my controller in a way that it worked as expected as well as effects not being as good and overall functionality and work flow not being as smooth as polished as I’ve been used to using serato and then traktor.
It has been a while since I tried it though so maybe I should give it another bash and see how it has improved over the years.
How is the library management? That is one thing traitor fucking sucks at!
derivator ( @derivator@feddit.de ) 2•10 months agoThere’s a long list of supported controllers. The process for making your own mappings can indeed be a bit cumbersome, but it also seems to be quite powerful in the kind of features it can support, thanks to javascript integration.
Not sure about the library management, seems to work well enough for me.
KyuubiNoKitsune ( @KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•10 months agoWin11 is malware, lol. But anyway, I’ve never come across anything like this for all my years of using Windows Enterprise editions.
recycledbits ( @recycledbits@discuss.tchncs.de ) 32•10 months ago“We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications
“”“unintended”“”?
How do you implement shit like this by mistake and push it out to be executed on people’s computers by mistake?
z3n0x ( @z3n0x@feddit.de ) 13•10 months ago“I slipped and programmed a pop up. Whoopsiedaisy”
TechieDamien ( @TechieDamien@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoIt was the intern!!!1!1!!
KyuubiNoKitsune ( @KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 22•10 months agoNot saying it’s okay in any way but Google does this with Chrome all the time on Amy Google page
olympus ( @olympus@kbin.social ) 20•10 months agoGuys, I keep reading this, but it’s not the same thing. At all. You don’t want to get Google’s crap? You don’t visit their crap websites. There are so many websites in this world to visit to avoid Google’s crap. You just don’t type anything with google on it in your address bar. The only way to avoid Microsoft’s crap is to install another operating system in your desktop or laptop. It’s just not the same thing. At all.
Microsoft should be forced to do what they have forced Google to do in Android. At least where I live, in EU. Ballon tips to have the option to use another browser and an option to disable Edge and all the crap asking all the time to use Edge. Like the android ballon tip and the option we have to at least disable Android Chrome. KyuubiNoKitsune ( @KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•10 months agoI fully agree, as a person who actually likes windows, and who’s career it made in IT support, I’m sick of this BS they’re pulling. I want people to like windows (except Win11, fuck Win11) because is some ways it’s really awesome, but that’ll never happen like this.
theshatterstone54 ( @theshatterstone54@feddit.uk ) 2•10 months agoMajor difference: Android is open source and Linux-based. Everything is made up of components z which are quite close together, but can be separated. In Windows everything is glued together. You can’t separate it. You can’t remove explorer.exe (Windows’ window manager) and replace it with another. You can replace your android Launcher, and you can replace your Linux desktop environment. Heck, you can even install a tiling window manager on the MacOS, Apple’s locked down desktop OS!!! But not on Windows.
olympus ( @olympus@kbin.social ) 5•10 months agoI am sorry but this doesn’t make sense. Chromium is an open source software and in no way is glued together with any operating system. Unless you want to glue it. They can just have edge WebView2… glued with the os the same way google has to use android webview when a webview is needed.
Microsoft back in the days was forced to… unglue… Internet Explorer. And they managed to do it in a browser that was… glued in the first place. No OS has to glue anything no matter the source of it being open or closed. Unless they want to glue.
Microsoft btw just… managed to unglue… Teams from Office… this is way more difficult to do. They will find a way to unglue Edge lol. theshatterstone54 ( @theshatterstone54@feddit.uk ) 1•10 months agoLet me send you to that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pagfXnqOyOE
And how painful it is to remove Edge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xdFLL9f9sk
Edge is made to be a part of windows, and difficult, if not impossible to remove. It is currently possible, but for how long?
Polkira ( @Polkira@kbin.social ) 11•10 months agoIt’s a lot easier to switch internet browsers than it is to switch operating systems.
But at least you don’t pay chrome, with windows instead you need to pay a license to use it.
gk99 ( @gk99@beehaw.org ) 1•10 months agoDebatable, considering all that’s stopping you from using it for free is a watermark and lack of personalization options.
Plus, I’m using the Windows 10 Education key my college gave me, and my Windows 7 Home key from way back in the day would work too, as well as the Windows 8 key that came with my Surface Pro 3. The cost feels like a formality tbh.
It’s illegal to do soo, not that much debatable.
Yes a formality that you pay every time you buy a pc with windows pleinstalled and it’s an asshole to refund.
nestEggParrot ( @nestEggParrot@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•10 months agoWhile I agree with your general point, how is it illegal? If I download the ISO from windows, install and keep using it without activation? They aren’t blocking me from using it and I haven’t circumvented any prevention they have in place. What’s illegal here?
If they make it easy for you doesn’t mean it’s legal.
It’s illegal to use windows without a license. As even stated in the license you agree before installing the os, this one, on section 5 Authorized Software and Activation.
You are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 14•10 months ago
They need to ask the question “will you ever choose to use a Microsoft browser?” and then remember the answer and stop the nagging. For me the answer is no.
7777AKA ( @7777AKA@lemm.ee ) 11•10 months agoWell windows is malware OS so nothing new
phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 9•10 months agoInstall Linux, problem solved
I use Arch btw
phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 2•10 months agoCongrats
Thank you thank you
tias ( @tias@discuss.tchncs.de ) English7•10 months agoSlack successfully made Microsoft stop bundling Teams in Microsoft Office through an anti-competition complaint. I’m surprised Google lets them get away with abusing the Windows product as a platform for promoting a search engine. My best guess for why they don’t is that the promotion isn’t working.
panCatE ( @jungekatz@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoI need to move my system to linux , however there is data on my system i need to backup, any way I can do that ?.
ZILtoid1991 ( @ZILtoid1991@kbin.social ) 6•10 months agoIf you have a desktop, buy a second drive. You might even can use your Windows installation for apps with no (good) Linux alternatives.
panCatE ( @jungekatz@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoOk yeah external hard drive makes sense ! I used windows only for my univ work , they needed Ms office for their reports etc , office 365 basically but since its over now ,I can use the apps I want
Moobythegoldensock ( @Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ) 5•10 months agoExternal hard drive is probably the cheapest/easiest solution. You can also try a cloud service like dropbox, Google Drive, etc.
BlinkerFluid ( @BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one ) 3•10 months agoExternal, cloud storage, install Linux on a separate drive and move everything over.
The world is your oyster, man.
FredericChopin_ ( @FredericChopin_@feddit.uk ) 2•10 months agoJest as aside, you do know you should have backups in place before something happens. What if your pc died tomorrow?
panCatE ( @jungekatz@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoYeah i do need the backup for that purpose , my PC is relatively new it has mostly my univ code and some work docs.!!
RoboRay ( @RoboRay@kbin.social ) 3•10 months agoNew computers are the ones more likely to fail.
AccurstDemon ( @AccurstDemon@sopuli.xyz ) 1•10 months agoUse FreeFileSync to make your backups easily without having to copy everything by yourself, thank me later!
Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 5•10 months agoAt the moment I use Windows 10, in the past Windows 7 also along with Kubuntu and others. I think that W10 is the last usable OS from M$, because of this I am not going to update it to W11, the following W12 and the online version for monthly subscription, are going to gradually take over the user’s sovereignty over their own PC, with absolute control over it. I am going to continue W10, the gutted version that I use, until support ends in 2025 (probably 2026-27 due to the large number of users), then we will see what there is then as an alternative. Maybe I’ll install some distro in dual boot in the meantime, but being online 99% of the time, where the OS used is irrelevant, it doesn’t bother me that much at the moment. Anyway I don’t use Google or Bing for obvious reasons and none of their services.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications, in a statement to The Verge.
I wasn’t alone in thinking it was malware, with posts dating back three months showing Reddit users trying to figure out why they were seeing the pop-up.
Microsoft even had to backtrack on plans to force the Chrome default search to Bing for businesses installing its Office apps.
After all, Google runs similar notifications on its webpages to get people to use Chrome or it’s annoying YouTube premium spam.
That could be in the form of the price of a laptop that has a Windows OEM license baked in, or a product key if you built your own PC.
Windows is an important productivity tool for many people, and shouldn’t be treated like a cheap streaming box loaded with ads.
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Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) English2•10 months agoChaotic good?
Chaotic bad!
Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) English1•10 months agoYeah but Chrome bad too!
Quintus ( @Quintus@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoIt’s always “unintended behavior” isn’t it?