•  Nooch   ( @alottachairs@beehaw.org ) 
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    3210 months ago

    Ugh being vegan is too hard, i dont want to only be limited to the literal hundreds of edible plants, and centuries of plant based cooking techniques. let me just eat the same 3 baby animals and their excretions.

    •  Hawk   ( @Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      710 months ago

      Veganism isn’t only about food. No idea how they handle checking every single item to see if it’s vegan. There’s a lot of stuff that uses non-vegan stuff to be produced.

      Cooking is easy, the hard part is knowing what exactly IS vegan.

      • There’s an app called Fig that I use that makes it much easier. You tell it what you don’t want to buy (there are presets for vegan, vegetarian, allergies, brand boycotts, etc.), and you take a picture of the ingredients list on a product. It’ll tell you if it matches your preferences, or even if it’s questionable.

      • Like most things, you learn as you go. I just learned my dishsoap isn’t vegan, but I already have it, I’m not throwing it away now. I just wont buy it again. I’ll be checking the next soap I buy. Each new thing needs to be researched. I’m just more comfortable with my choices than I was before.

      •  Firestorm Druid   ( @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ) OP
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        210 months ago

        It’s definitely not easy and takes some research, but it’s not impossible.

        For example, carmine is used as a red dye and is made of small insects that are processed for the dye. Some sweets use these, baking ingredients can too. If you don’t know that, you may end up supporting something non-vegan as a vegan.

        It’s these little things, “unknown” and obscure knowledge, that can get you if you’re not well informed.

  • Honestly being vegan with modern farming and food production techniques is pretty easy, especially when compared to being vegan in the past - though if al-Ma’arri managed to live into his 80s while being a disabled, atheistic vegan in the middle east in the late 900s/early 1000s AD then it probably wasn’t exactly impossible!

    •  Firestorm Druid   ( @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ) OP
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      710 months ago

      Absolutely true. We have everything we could want/need to live a healthy vegan life. Most people are just afraid of trying something different or are purposefully ignorant of the implications of a non-vegan lifestyle.

      • One of the things that made it hardest for me was being teased and picked on by my family, while I wasn’t asking anything from them. I just didn’t want meat with dinner. It was nonstop anytime I showed my face, and if I spoke I was spoken over and ignored. It made me very antisocial, and I didn’t adhere to my values. Then almost twenty years later I did and I’ve gained a bunch of weight because I’m comfortable while I eat.

        •  Firestorm Druid   ( @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ) OP
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          10 months ago

          I feel you. My SO and I have been vegan for around 3 years now and my family (mostly my older brother, tbh) keeps trying to get us to “cheat on veganism” for some super stupid reason. The worst has been when my brother said that he’s “constantly” making compromises for us in terms of food, so it’d only be fair if we did once. 🙄

          They’re/he’s probably just too insecure to give it a proper shot and to admit that what they’re/he’s doing might be morally wrong.

    • If you live in a country like the USA you can already buy non-animal dairy! Unfortunately it’s illegal where I live (thanks to the Green party) but a lot of dairy companies think it’s the future as it has a fraction of the environmental impact and none of the cruelty associated with industrial cattle farming.

  • Ok but the more I learn about vegan recipes, the more I realize meat has been delicious enough to kept me ignorant of finer technique. Cooking and chopping has improved a lot in search if better vegan flavors.

    I have some good cookbooks but on youtube I’ve found: Adam Ragusea, Marco Pierre White, Lucas Sin.